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I once read a theory that made a lot of sense in explaining how racial differences could of occurred in our evolution from our common ancestor with the chemps. If I remember correctly it speculated that some of the human side of the split escaped Africa early on and made it to the Mid-East and thence to Europe and beyond while the humans that stayed in Africa continued to breed across the line with the side they split from for some time. The escapees would have encountered Neanderthal and maybe other humans and absorbed them causing at least some of the differences between Europeans, Asian Mongol races, and the race found in Africa. I'm sure living conditions and climate played a part but this theory certainly sounds reasonable to me.

On another note concerning Wolves vs domestic dogs. They are all dogs, a wolf is a dog.

When one side finally prevails in this debate it will drive BOTH sides to drink when they discover that it really makes no difference in the Grand Scheme.

O, but I do know the details of His creation. His Word tells us He spoke and it happened. Using regular common sense, if we speak and something happens, it happens when we speak. It doesn't take years or decades or centuries. We have been brainwashed by cartoons from age two or three years old to post graduate school that evolution is a fact. It takes some real life open minded research to overcome it.

Often I challenge our .com friends: Name ONE Ph.D. physical scientist who was a creationist and became an evolutionist after earning his doctorate. Just one. And I will name a dozen Ph.D. evolutionists physical scientists who after earning their doctorate became creationists. I limit it to physical scientists and don't include philosophers and theologians because those guys get whacked out by too much thinking and not enough observing.

You need to keep up with the most current information. This info is dated and has been refuted.

To believe in the theory evolution takes a large, if not larger leap of faith than Creation.

Your are badly mistaken about requiring faith. When John Sanford, who has seventy patens on gene splicing and taught graduate students for twenty-five years asked a colleague wht evidence we have for evolution he said, "We have none. We go on faith just the creationists." No one was there for the millions of years to see these supposed changes.




You are conflating change from on animal like horses and zebras and mules with the microbe to man theory. One is observable science the other is historical speculation from interpretation of facts.

I don't think many folks here understand what Evolution is.

Some folks here the word evolution and immediately think someone is trying to take Jesus away.

One side will prevail. At that time every knee will bow and every tongue will confess Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of the Father.

The truth is simple: Christ is a fact, evolution is a theory...

You paint with a pretty wide brush. I am an Evangelical Christian but have no doubt evolution exists. You seem to me limiting my ability to think and have opinions just because of my faith. I find that insulting.

Many people like to put groups of people into small boxes that they cannot escape because of their beliefs. Than can be a mistake.

He may very well say;;” Rich, do you have any idea how much precious time you wasted arguing from an ignorant place?”

Scott,

very well said.

I'm not an "Evangelical Christian" and I, too, don't like to be put in a box.

There's too much of the small box thing going around regarding many groups, religious, political, economic, racial, and so on.

Geno

I refer you to my signature line...

I am kind of surprised at you, GG. The only thing "settled" about this science is that evolution exists. How and why it does is far from settled. In fact, it is clearly a work in progress. The evidence for that is the numerous times that what was once accepted has been disproven. That is not to say that evolution is disproven - but our understanding of how it works has been....several times.

The vast majority of posters on both sides of this thread are lagging behind recent discoveries. Most here (if not all) would benefit by spending more time reading and less time arguing. What I see here is argument from both sides that is not supported by the most up-to-date science (not that I'm on the cutting edge either), and much of it coming from ideas that have been shown to be wrong for a long time.

I don't see anything in the most current science that I am aware of that challenges my faith in God. Likewise, I don't see anything in the Bible that disallows scientific discovery and/or the study of evolution. My educated guess is that both extreme arguments are close-minded and wrong.

I am not that important to Him.

Your opinion does not establish facts. They're just opinion.

Back at ya.

I wasn't trying to establish any facts here, other than that you and others are lacking in current knowledge - and you and others from both sides are attempting to persuade (poorly) others to accept ideas based on weak assumptions.

You want facts? Then you will have to leave your assumptions at the door and keep your pursuit of truth ongoing. It's difficult....I know.

Evolution is the change of allele frequency in a population over time. Pure fact. Fuggin amazing any of this stuff occurs.

Evolution is so overwhelmingly evident to any scientifically literate person that it's hard to comprehend how anything but bad faith can explain its rejection by any but the most universally ignorant.

Then name one Ph.D creationist who switched. Just one.