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It's no secret that Ruger's proprietary cartridges are not doing well. If you have watched Ruger's history they never give a hint they are going to drop a particular cartridge or fire arm model . They just do it with out notification. When Ruger was asked if they would bring out the PCR they stated no. We have had cartridges like 6.5 Rem mag, 6.5x284 all started with a lot of fan fare & then slowly go away. One thought I had for those with own a Gap or PRC was that since they had a mag base maybe the rifle could be re chambered to a 6.5x270WSM. At least there is a good supply of affordable brass new & once fired. Also the cartridge is fairly popular which means a supply of brass into the future. I would recommend to those that have rifles chambered for the Gap or PRC to get in a good supply of brass. One day it's production will just stop. I base this on what history has taught on such cartridges.
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Ballisically, the 6.5 PRC is about equal the 6.5/284.....I prefer the looks or design of the 6.5/284 casing a little bit better. The 6.5/284 will more than likely be my next and my very first 6.5....
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I looked hard at the PRC as I do think it’s a cool cartridge but once I realized it gained me only 200 yards over my 6.5 creed when it falls below 1800 fps (143 eldx roughly 850 yards with CM to 1050 yards with PRC) I realized it wasn’t enough difference. So went with 7 wsm that carries a 30+ grain heavier bullet 1800 fps at 1250 yards If I didn’t have the 6.5 fanboy already though the PRC def would be a candidate but trying to avoid too much overlap these days. I got one cuz I like to say CREED. Then the Fugger shoots unbelievable, making me a fanboy. I also got a 26 Nosler. But I don’t like to say NOSLER...😜😎 Just say “26”. I like my Creed and my 26. Also have a Swede in a strong action and a 6.5x284, DF
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Ballisically, the 6.5 PRC is about equal the 6.5/284.....I prefer the looks or design of the 6.5/284 casing a little bit better. The 6.5/284 will more than likely be my next and my very first 6.5....
I'm all Creed 'd out. E Nuff already.....lol...................................... I'm with you.I own several 6.5 rifles from 6.5x308 to 6.5x55 to 264 mag. They all perform well. My 6.5x06 is my favorite. With a load of IMR 4350 ( 24" Bbl. ) & the Barnes 6.5 120gr TSX it delivers 3277fps. Take elk with it cleanly each season with complete pass threw. Plenty of inexpensive once fired brass like 30-06 & 25-06. I use mainly 25-06 brass . One pass threw a 6.5x06 FL sizer & load. It will do anyhing the 6.5 PCR will do at a fraction of the price.
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Looks like Prime is using the 142 grain Sierra Match King for their 4S factory ammo. Oh well...
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Testing my new Silencerco Omega suppressor today.....nice surprise that it enhanced the accuracy....at least at 100 yards. Nice, light, compact unit. Felt recoil was less than a .243.
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Testing my new Silencerco Omega suppressor today.....nice surprise that it enhanced the accuracy....at least at 100 yards. Nice, light, compact unit. Felt recoil was less than a .243. Loving that Scorched Earth on that EH1. Thinking hard of ordering another, same color as a folder. If I order it now, I might have it by next deer season... What kind of velocity you running there Pat? What kind of FPS gain, or loss, you getting with the Omega?
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With the 139's, I'm getting right at 3100fps. There was no gain or loss..
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Sweet...what's your OAL with the .135" FB?
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Sweet...what's your OAL with the .135" FB?
2.870"
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After two days of rain, I just had to slip out and shoot....a bit brisk, but good testing conditions. A 5-7mph west wind, and chilly. After this 10 shot string at 200 yards, I confirmed my come-ups out to 800....she is "dialed"...;) Loving that Omega!!
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Pat, I'm liking your range card. Could you share with me the info on your scope? Thanks Wishing you the best this hunting season.
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Pat, I'm liking your range card. Could you share with me the info on your scope? Thanks Wishing you the best this hunting season. It's a 3-12X50 S&B PMII, single turn, w/o lit reticle. Those scopes were speced and manufactured for Accuracy International, by S&B, and were distributed by Ashbury corp.
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45F, misty, but dead calm early this AM. I'm thinking I can get by with this...;)
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Man, that'll work! Great shooting Pat!
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Just measured my Skoal can (hair over 2 1/2")... that's some incredible shooting!
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Just measured my Skoal can (hair over 2 1/2")... that's some incredible shooting! I cheated, and shot from the bench.....I didn't want to lay in the mud..;) Thanks for the kind words!
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I have one of the first 6.5 PRC factory rifles,a Montana Rifle Company X3. I have only shot factory ammo so far. The 143 grain ELDx averages a little over 3000 fps and shoots into about .75 MOA. It also kills the crap out of critters. Four hogs so far,two big boars at less than five yards hit square in the shoulder to try and wreck the bullet and two 100 pound sows at 400 yard inpact velocity.
All were very quick kills with good expansion and plenty of penetration. Also have killed a big boar at 5 yards quartering sharply way with the 147 grain ELDM bullet. Plenty of penetration and killed instantly.
Based on my experience so far,the 6.5 PRC does what it is supposed to do in a factory rifle with hunting ammo.
It uses the same bullets as the 6.5 Creedmoor at 250 fps more velocity when comparing factory ammo. This means that it has the recoil of a 270 Winchester,but it delivers a flatter trajectory with better wind numbers than almost any factory load short of the big 300 and 338 magnums.
I think it's a pretty good idea for a factory hunting cartridge. Nothing else offers recoil so light with as much performance.
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Impressive shooting for sure. Never knew it got dead calm in your part of the world. But the big question is have you got a leather cheekpiece designed for the EH1 yet? I know it would shoot better.....
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