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Revealed to Moses as four Hebrew consonants (YHWH) Originally, these four consonants represented the
four members of the Heavenly Family In accordance with the royal traditions of the time and region....
Y represented El the Father;
H was Asherah the Mother;
W corresponded to He the Son;
H was the Daughter Anath.
The Israelites initially worshipped Yahweh(YHWH) alongside a variety of Canaanite gods and goddesses, including El, Asherah and Baal.
Yahweh is a typical ancient Near Eastern "divine warrior", who leads the heavenly army against Israel's enemies; he later became the
main god of the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) and of Judah, and over time the royal court and temple promoted Yahweh as the god of
the entire cosmos.
Psalm 11:6
"On the wicked he will rain fiery coals and burning sulfur; a scorching wind will be their lot."
Psalm 18:
7 "The earth trembled and quaked and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry."
8 "Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
A God associated with the natural forces like many pagan Gods are...and like the pagan Gods, was offered sacrifices
to attempt to appease him.
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-- Prof. Erhard S. Gerstenberger writes on p.151 of Theologies of the Old Testament.
"Yahweh was not always God in Israel and at every social level. Rather, initially he belongs only to the storm and war gods
like Baal, Anath, Hadad, Resheph and Chemosh…His original homeland was the southern regions of present-day Palestine
and Jordan. Thus the regional and functional, cultural and social limitations of Yahweh should be beyond all doubt.
The elaboration of ideas about Yahweh, e.g. as a guarantor of fertility, personal good fortune, head of a pantheon,
creator of the world, judge of the world, etc. is gradual and only fully unfolds in the exilic/post-exilic age, always in
connection with social and historical changes."
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The Bible’s Yahweh, a War-God: called “Lord of Armies” over 280 times in the Bible and “Lord of Peace” only once.
Naturally, when ancient Kings and Rulers of tribes are conquering others , they can force upon the people and conquered regions
the supremacy of their brand of Gods or God that they have fashioned for themselves.
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Praying for you brother..
"Blessed is the man whose wife is his best friend - especially if she likes to HUNT!"
"Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself. There is no commandment greater than these."
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Don't blame me. I voted for Trump.
Democrats would burn this country to the ground, if they could rule over the ashes.
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So, where does the Great Pumpkin come in? Always interesting, always supposition, and always pointless, theological discussion serves little pupose other than to offend one group or another. GD
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So, where does the Great Pumpkin come in? Always interesting, always supposition, and always pointless, theological discussion serves little pupose other than to offend one group or another. GD ^^^^^ and especially when it comes from a non believer
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He's a troll. A religious troll. The only attention he can get here is by posting threads that offend Christians. John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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And what the buggy man also one of the ancient gods?
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He really has his terms and timeline mixed up. Muslims have the same problem with the timeline.One example would be that Mary (mother of Jesus) was the sister of Moses. I know it sounds crazy but they really think that. Starman are you a Muslim?
Ideas are far more powerful than guns, We dont let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas. "Joseph Stalin"
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ElShaddai, Elohim, a bunch of'em back there in those early daysss.
the original hebrew god was a ground or land based god. possibly even a goddess?
but, as the earth changes occurred mankind began worshiping the mighty sky-gods. the Mighty YHWH the mightest of the group.
of course the egyptians had their own "pantheon" of various sky gods of one kind, type, sort or another.
anyways it all had to start from somewheres.
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He's a troll. A religious troll. The only attention he can get here is by posting threads that offend Christians. John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. This^^^.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
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Revealed to Moses as four Hebrew consonants (YHWH) Originally, these four consonants represented the
four members of the Heavenly Family In accordance with the royal traditions of the time and region....
Y represented El the Father;
H was Asherah the Mother;
W corresponded to He the Son;
H was the Daughter Anath.
The Israelites initially worshipped Yahweh(YHWH) alongside a variety of Canaanite gods and goddesses, including El, Asherah and Baal.
Yahweh is a typical ancient Near Eastern "divine warrior", who leads the heavenly army against Israel's enemies; he later became the
main god of the Kingdom of Israel (Samaria) and of Judah, and over time the royal court and temple promoted Yahweh as the god of
the entire cosmos.
Psalm 11:6
"On the wicked he will rain fiery coals and burning sulfur; a scorching wind will be their lot."
Psalm 18:
7 "The earth trembled and quaked and the foundations of the mountains shook; they trembled because he was angry."
8 "Smoke rose from his nostrils; consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it."
A God associated with the natural forces like many pagan Gods are...and like the pagan Gods, was offered sacrifices?
to attempt to appease him.
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-- Prof. Erhard S. Gerstenberger writes on p.151 of Theologies of the Old Testament.
"Yahweh was not always God in Israel and at every social level. Rather, initially he belongs only to the storm and war gods
like Baal, Anath, Hadad, Resheph and Chemosh…His original homeland was the southern regions of present-day Palestine
and Jordan. Thus the regional and functional, cultural and social limitations of Yahweh should be beyond all doubt.
The elaboration of ideas about Yahweh, e.g. as a guarantor of fertility, personal good fortune, head of a pantheon,
creator of the world, judge of the world, etc. is gradual and only fully unfolds in the exilic/post-exilic age, always in
connection with social and historical changes."
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The Bible’s Yahweh, a War-God: called “Lord of Armies” over 280 times in the Bible and “Lord of Peace” only once.
Naturally, when ancient Kings and Rulers of tribes are conquering others , they can force upon the people and conquered regions
the supremacy of their of brand of Gods or God that they have fashioned for themselves. Very interesting Starman. I must say that the God of the OT and the Jesus of the NT appear to be opposites to each other. The tetragrammaton where the name (sound) of God's name came from according to the "Hebrew ?" scholars. But I was taught that the Hebrews read from right to left thus rending it; HWHY. Hhmm. So the questions could be, which Jews are saying the tetragrammaton is correct and which say it isn't? The Biblical Hebrew Jews or those who call themselves Jews today?? One bunch are not allowed to say the name of God as it is to Holy, the other bunch have no problem saying it. The one name I find given to the OT God was "I Am That I Am" and that came right from the horses mouth as we say. So, interesting isn't it.
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You can find a cult that will believe about anything.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
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the idea of cults hasn't flared up in a few years. i remember the crowd that took over the town out in oregon a few years back. and the "clan" that would solicit money from the various airports, what with shaved heads and white sheets or whatever. couldn't ever decide if the moonies were a cult or just a strange church.
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i've always figured the mighty sky-god, aka as the Mighty War God YHWH is still stewing over how poorly his plan went over in colonizing the entire earth people to worship him. the competition was fierce, obviously. and maybe it's still not been decided quite yet? who would ever know for sure?
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Not uncommon misconception. He didn't colonize the Earth with people to worship him. He colonized the Earth with people that could choose to worship him. Big difference.
Maybe no competition. Maybe we're just trying to figure out the nature of The One that is. And we've gotten better at it over time.
The key elements in human thinking are not numbers but labels of fuzzy sets. -- L. Zadeh
Which explains a lot.
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The names of the almighty God is diverse and complex but refers to one supreme being. Different languages and one person. Ancient Hebrew or Egyptian. The name is a matter of clan or ethnic group. Jehova, “creator”, “the one that sits on the most highiest throne of heaven”, “the possessor or heaven and earth”
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I have always wondered why people believe that an Omnipotent being would only manifest in one form.
(there you are, Gus. think about that for a bit)
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I have always wondered why people believe that an Omnipotent being would only manifest in one form.
(there you are, Gus. think about that for a bit) vel, ok. i'm thought about it for a full minute. there's the mighty Aten, as proposed by Akenaten of the egyption lineage. we know that the followers of the mighty Wotan, and Odin are falling by the wayside. surely, we're coming to a common decision point, where only one god can & will prevail? but, will that be the real god, or an impostor? that ought to stir up the rank & file. one earth, one god, and one people? why, that's an outrage. we have rights ya know? we can worship whatever god we so choose, and who's to stop us?
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So, people's perception of god is a fabrication of their desire for what that god should be.
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