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I have avoided posting because I don't want anyone to lose sleep over this:
I will not be doing business with Peterson. Derek, instead of 'stop drop and roll' you have continued to add gasoline to your own detriment.
I personally like buying brass from crod1972...but what do I know.
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I have avoided posting because I don't want anyone to lose sleep over this:
I will not be doing business with Peterson. Derek, instead of 'stop drop and roll' you have continued to add gasoline to your own detriment.
I personally like buying brass from crod1972...but what do I know.
I’m sorry to hear that. If you’d like to discuss your personal issue with us or me, or how I have handled this circus, just PM me and we can talk.
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Yeah - my take home is Peterson was not represented well here in any way, product nor support. The bumbling explanation by the president was a bad move... Greg, I'm still here. Just observing. I don't understand why you made that comment. We tried to reason with Larry, work with him, and replace his product for free including shipping. As for the explanation I gave, how would you go about reasoning and trying to explain a topic to someone who everytime you mention something he goes on a 3 page rant. He didn't want an answer, he wants a problem. If you or anyone have any genuine questions, I would be more than happy to answer them, I'm just out in the shop keeping an eye on the machinery. I own a business too for context. How to reason? Answer - you don't engage or reason. No internet forums defending your product. Let the product speak. You can't fluff the players. Still pertinent months later....
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I own a business too for context... You can't fluff the players. Unless you’re in the porn business.
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I own a business too for context... You can't fluff the players. Unless you’re in the porn business. Laffin........ Now, how the hell do I properly use a quote tag...........I'm a friggin disaster!
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I own a business too for context... You can't fluff the players. Unless you’re in the porn business. Grin...
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I heard Safariman might be willing to give a report on Peterson brass if they could send him some. 10 or 20k would be about right. He needs 5 to shoot a group. The rest would help finance nitrous injection for his racing Harley. The one he races while living with bad kidneys and no money.
Does Peterson make humanitarian donations? He needs someone to buy a Ruger Charger with(out?) bipod. So he can buy gas for the Avalanche When he's towing the Harley.
Derek, don't respond. You wouldn't understand.
I'm just adding some extra flavor to the schidt stew. And stirring it up.
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I heard Safariman might be willing to give a report on Peterson brass if they could send him some. 10 or 20k would be about right. He needs 5 to shoot a group. The rest would help finance nitrous injection for his racing Harley. The one he races while living with bad kidneys and no money.
Does Peterson make humanitarian donations? He needs someone to buy a Ruger Charger with(out?) bipod. So he can buy gas for the Avalanche When he's towing the Harley.
Derek, don't respond. You wouldn't understand.
I'm just adding some extra flavor to the schidt stew. And stirring it up. Haha. Got it.
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It’s easy to see at that point that he took a small pick, like a dental pick, and started picking at the flash holes to make them look as bad as possible. It must be easier for you to see it, than me. Can't pick up a single scratch mark, with my eyes. Maybe he breathed on them, too? Quite the accusation... Agree. Accusing someone publicly like this: Pass me the Lapuas.
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It’s easy to see at that point that he took a small pick, like a dental pick, and started picking at the flash holes to make them look as bad as possible. It must be easier for you to see it, than me. Can't pick up a single scratch mark, with my eyes. Maybe he breathed on them, too? Quite the accusation... Agree. Accusing someone publicly like this: Pass me the Lapuas. If you’d like to discuss how I can tell he has altered the casings since his first pictures, please send me a PM and I will take as much time as needed to show he has. Thanks bud.
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It’s easy to see at that point that he took a small pick, like a dental pick, and started picking at the flash holes to make them look as bad as possible. It must be easier for you to see it, than me. Can't pick up a single scratch mark, with my eyes. Maybe he breathed on them, too? Quite the accusation... Agree. Accusing someone publicly like this: Pass me the Lapuas. If you’d like to discuss how I can tell he has altered the casings since his first pictures, please send me a PM and I will take as much time as needed to show he has. Thanks bud. You made the accusations in public, you should show your proof in public.
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You made the accusations in public, you should show your proof in public. [/quote]
I’ve already shown through his picture progression that he has altered the casings from when he received them. Attempting to put forth a rational deeper explanation on a public forum, with multiple posters who are committed to defending Larry’s outrageous behavior towards me, and my company, for trying to get him to a solution for his claimed problem, is a lose lose for me. I am happy to explain it to anyone who genuinely cares, and take as long as it takes. But a forum governed by mob rule, isn’t a great place for a detailed explanation, as you can imagine. Before you say, “Then it’s not a great place to make an accusation”, keep in mind I didn’t bring this issue here, Larry did. And continued to fuel it after it had died for almost 3 weeks. I tried, in vain, to keep his issue between just him and I. Just like we would do for anyone.
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That another way of saying you can't prove it. You could blather on for hours and never show proof of your accusation. In the spirit of JeffO's 'post yer load', post your proof. Show detailed pics of all those tool/pick marks that nobody but you can see. By gawd I still can't see them.
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That another way of saying you can't prove it. You could blather on for hours and never show proof of your accusation. In the spirit of JeffO's 'post yer load', post your proof. Show detailed pics of all those tool/pick marks that nobody but you can see. By gawd I still can't see them. Just shoot me a PM and we can talk all you want in private.
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That another way of saying you can't prove it. You could blather on for hours and never show proof of your accusation. In the spirit of JeffO's 'post yer load', post your proof. Show detailed pics of all those tool/pick marks that nobody but you can see. By gawd I still can't see them. Because they're not there. I don't know Derek or Larry. I do know Larry shoots 1000's of rounds per year. Larry is not easy on equipment and will not hold back. He also will not hold back if it is good. There were 100 different correct ways to handle this thread. Derek didn't pick any of them.
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That another way of saying you can't prove it. You could blather on for hours and never show proof of your accusation. In the spirit of JeffO's 'post yer load', post your proof. Show detailed pics of all those tool/pick marks that nobody but you can see. By gawd I still can't see them. Just shoot me a PM and we can talk all you want in private. That's chickens hit. YOU made the accusation, not huntsman22. You did it in public, on here. Show it or let it go....which you clearly have trouble with.
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That another way of saying you can't prove it. You could blather on for hours and never show proof of your accusation. In the spirit of JeffO's 'post yer load', post your proof. Show detailed pics of all those tool/pick marks that nobody but you can see. By gawd I still can't see them. Just shoot me a PM and we can talk all you want in private. That's chickens hit. YOU made the accusation, not huntsman22. You did it in public, on here. Show it or let it go....which you clearly have trouble with. Someone sounds angry I won’t play into their cycle anymore. Larry supporters make accusations and try to stoke the fire, I defend my products, Larry supporters make new accusations. Larry is not credible. I have manufactured millions of casings, sold them all over the world, and never had a complaint like his. He is a random, vastly unliked, troll who lives alone in Alaska. I’m a business owner with thousands of happy customers. If you want to also talk in private, let me know.
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That another way of saying you can't prove it. You could blather on for hours and never show proof of your accusation. In the spirit of JeffO's 'post yer load', post your proof. Show detailed pics of all those tool/pick marks that nobody but you can see. By gawd I still can't see them. Because they're not there. I don't know Derek or Larry. I do know Larry shoots 1000's of rounds per year. Larry is not easy on equipment and will not hold back. He also will not hold back if it is good. There were 100 different correct ways to handle this thread. Derek didn't pick any of them. If you PM me, maybe you can educate me on the 100 different ways. That would be helpful.
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Yeah - my take home is Peterson was not represented well here in any way, product nor support. The bumbling explanation by the president was a bad move... Greg, I'm still here. Just observing. I don't understand why you made that comment. We tried to reason with Larry, work with him, and replace his product for free including shipping. As for the explanation I gave, how would you go about reasoning and trying to explain a topic to someone who everytime you mention something he goes on a 3 page rant. He didn't want an answer, he wants a problem. If you or anyone have any genuine questions, I would be more than happy to answer them, I'm just out in the shop keeping an eye on the machinery. I own a business too for context. How to reason? Answer - you don't engage or reason. No internet forums defending your product. Let the product speak. You can't fluff the players. Still pertinent months later.... Did you re-read this? If not, you should.
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Yeah - my take home is Peterson was not represented well here in any way, product nor support. The bumbling explanation by the president was a bad move... Greg, I'm still here. Just observing. I don't understand why you made that comment. We tried to reason with Larry, work with him, and replace his product for free including shipping. As for the explanation I gave, how would you go about reasoning and trying to explain a topic to someone who everytime you mention something he goes on a 3 page rant. He didn't want an answer, he wants a problem. If you or anyone have any genuine questions, I would be more than happy to answer them, I'm just out in the shop keeping an eye on the machinery. I own a business too for context. How to reason? Answer - you don't engage or reason. No internet forums defending your product. Let the product speak. You can't fluff the players. Still pertinent months later.... Did you re-read this? If not, you should. I did. Thanks. His advice seemed sound. That is why I’m doing everything through PM. If one of his 5 fans wants to have a discussion with me, I’m doing it privately. Out of the public eye. Just like he suggests. It is too late to go back and redo this thread, but I sure can start now. If you have any other advice of your own, send it my way in a PM. Thanks bud.
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