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I'm sure it's a good deer cartridge and thanks for posting.
But the .270 Winchester has been doing that with 130 grain bullets for the last 92 years.
I think we've reached the point of diminishing returns, at least as far as advancements in cartridges are concerned. I got on the 6.5 CM bandwagon last year, and killed a deer with mine. I'll probably hunt with it again this year also. Did it perform any better than any other cartridge I've ever used..........nope. Did the deer die any different than any other deer I've ever killed..........nope, didn't do that either. I like the 6.5, but if I had to go on a serious deer hunt, and kill a deer or else, I'd take my 40 year old Remington 700 Classic in 270, and some 130 grain Sierra's loaded with H4831. I concur... Genius...
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I might try it, seems the a good all around bullet for the CM. The factory 147 ELDM out of the Montana kicks a bit much for my wife. I like a lightweight rifle, but I do not like recoil. I have been shooting the 120 grain bullets in the CM, and do not notice the recoil in the slightest. Horn stepped on the gas pretty good to get those 147s to go almost 2700. You feel it in the Montana platform...(grin) The worst kicking rifle I have had, was a Rem Ti 7-08 shooting factory 150s. It jabbed you it seemed. You seem pretty rifle savvy so I wonder why you'd try a 6.5 or 7 anything for somebody that doesn't like recoil.
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Slumlord.....I wanted to get some wound channel pictures but the yellow jackets were so bad this year that I didn’t mess around once it was on the ground. I got one picture in the field then got down to business. We had to go to town after we set up camp the day before season to buy bee traps. We hung five bee traps that filled up on the second day. It made eating miserable, especially for our little ones. The good news is there was still a bit of meat on the bones when we got home.
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I'm sure it's a good deer cartridge and thanks for posting.
But the .270 Winchester has been doing that with 130 grain bullets for the last 92 years.
I think we've reached the point of diminishing returns, at least as far as advancements in cartridges are concerned. Funny, that the guy who mentions “diminishing returns”... is the same guy that’s shooting an extra 15 grains of powder for the same performance with a 130. Or is the irony lost only on me?
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I could dig these bullets at 2600-2900 FPS kind of launch speeds.
I’m hoping the 90 grain GameChangers I have loaded up for the .243 perform like that on antelope next week.
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I'm sure it's a good deer cartridge and thanks for posting.
But the .270 Winchester has been doing that with 130 grain bullets for the last 92 years.
I think we've reached the point of diminishing returns, at least as far as advancements in cartridges are concerned. There’s a ton of repetition in my safes. Each has its own place in my world. I could shoot sage rats to moose with the old 06 but where’s the fun in that?
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Looks to be a decent candidate for low to moderate impact velocities. Be interested to see performance in the 2800ish range.
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I'm sure it's a good deer cartridge and thanks for posting.
But the .270 Winchester has been doing that with 130 grain bullets for the last 92 years.
I think we've reached the point of diminishing returns, at least as far as advancements in cartridges are concerned. Except for the part where the .270 slings a 130gr bullet at 3200, and leaves an exit.
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It mushroomed well But where along its path It resulted in a dead buck anyways Congrats!! But was it initial expansion and then more thru the chest Reason why I wonder is ya said it Slipped in between 2 ribs Smacked one on the off side and lodged under the hide. Do ya think most of the expansion might have been on that off side rib.
I would want an exit wound myself.
JMO and not trying ta bust ya chops about the round.
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I'm sure it's a good deer cartridge and thanks for posting.
But the .270 Winchester has been doing that with 130 grain bullets for the last 92 years.
I think we've reached the point of diminishing returns, at least as far as advancements in cartridges are concerned. Except for the part where the .270 slings a 130gr bullet at 3200, and leaves an exit. Or put Weatherby behind its caliber and push 130 gr tts at 3450.
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It mushroomed well But where along its path It resulted in a dead buck anyways Congrats!! But was it initial expansion and then more thru the chest Reason why I wonder is ya said it Slipped in between 2 ribs Smacked one on the off side and lodged under the hide. Do ya think most of the expansion might have been on that off side rib.
I would want an exit wound myself.
JMO and not trying ta bust ya chops about the round.
I would say it did most of it on initial hit based on what I saw in the chest cavity. Definitely hard to say though. As I said I was very happy with the results as it died quickly. A short sprint to the creek bottom of about 20 yards was all he had left. I will say I’m not sure how well they would hold up at higher velocities hitting more substance. Most of my hunting affords me the opportunity to wait for a perfect shot so I thought I’d give these a whirl.
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I might try it, seems the a good all around bullet for the CM. The factory 147 ELDM out of the Montana kicks a bit much for my wife. I like a lightweight rifle, but I do not like recoil. I have been shooting the 120 grain bullets in the CM, and do not notice the recoil in the slightest. Horn stepped on the gas pretty good to get those 147s to go almost 2700. You feel it in the Montana platform...(grin) The worst kicking rifle I have had, was a Rem Ti 7-08 shooting factory 150s. It jabbed you it seemed. There is a noticible difference between even the Nosler accubond 140gr and the Horn 143gr ELD-X
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Hopefully the heavier 7mm will come out soon, with a a good BC.
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Horn really stepped on the gas. Wife will be just fine with 130s.
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Picking up my new rifle this weekend. Smith is convinced these will be a good bullet and wants me to give em a try. Will find a sweet spot between 3200-3300 FPS...no need to push it. I'll try to shoot a Whitetail at somewhere's between 25-60 yds this November and report back on how they do at speed.
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Glad to see another thread about the 25/06. Here's mine.
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Load data as follows:
Hornady brass 42.6gr H4350 CCI 200 2.875 OAL
Nothing special obviously. This was basically one of the loads of the first series I worked up and this load shot less than .400 in both my Vanguard and my M77 Predator. Yeah, nothing special. Except good barrels, good bullets and good brass. Wow! I'll take it!
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Uh...Uh... uhmm... I meant the starting weight for the powder charge!!! LOL! Thanks! No you didn't. Nobody asks what the starting weight was when asking what the load was. Mistakes are made, overlooking information can happen, but by scrambling for a lame comeback, you made yourself look like a moron. Next time take your lumps. We all make mistakes once in a while.
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