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When I lived in Colorado, I was friends with an older game warden. He told me the most popular cartridge for elk poachers was the 25-20 when it was available followed by the .22 Hornet. He always keep a sharp eye on me mid-winter, because he knew I owned both.
My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost....
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Dre,is my .460 too big for elk? .460 Wby using a 500 grain Hornady DGX at 2070 fps. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/50YlI8A.jpg) .460 Wby using a 400 grain Speer at 2500 fps. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/nwPFaQM.jpg) With a 400 grain Swift A-Frame at 2500-2600 fps I would not hesitate to use the .460 on elk.
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elkhunternm, That May “not” not be my first choice for shots over 400 yards, but for under 400 yards....a hunter could chose “far” worse! memtb
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Yes, it takes 2 days before you stop seeing double after shooting that thing. Masochist. Dre,is my .460 too big for elk?
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Elkhunternm, do you want a participation award or pat on a back to get some attention for shooting a rabbit with 460 wby.
You get triggered too?
You and elkslayer91 should set up a tent at broke back mountain and see who’s is bigger.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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Topic is caliber, not power. Keep up snow flake.
LOL, talk about snowflakes. The topic is cartridge, not caliber. You do know the difference, right? Yeah i saw that as well. There was No point bringing it up
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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I knew a former Colorado outfitter who from an early age killed Bulls and Muleys with a 243for a long time . He graduated to a 270 when he took a trip to Africa and after that was stolen on his return trip to the states he ended up with a 300 win mag.
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Elkhunternm, do you want a participation award or pat on a back to get some attention for shooting a rabbit with 460 wby.
You get triggered too?
You and elkslayer91 should set up a tent at broke back mountain and see who’s is bigger.
Dre,I see. It's easier to insult someone than answer a question.
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Yes, it takes 2 days before you stop seeing double after shooting that thing. Masochist. Dre,is my .460 too big for elk? 
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elkhunternm, That May “not” not be my first choice for shots over 400 yards, but for under 400 yards....a hunter could chose “far” worse! memtb My shots at elk have been two hundred yards or less.
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Elkhunternm, do you want a participation award or pat on a back to get some attention for shooting a rabbit with 460 wby.
You get triggered too?
You and elkslayer91 should set up a tent at broke back mountain and see who’s is bigger.
Dre,I see. It's easier to insult someone than answer a question. Because I’ve tried to explain my self about 4 times, and if you feel like you need to stir the pot again, no sense in kindness.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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I see,so you still could not answer a simple question.
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Ugh.
Once again, IMO as ‘in my opinion’
460 is over kill.
Yes it is better than under gunned, just over kill as elk are not bullet proof and even with a shoulder canon like that a bad shot will not take down an elk.
You ok now? that I approved your 460.
All of them do something better than the 30-06, but none of them do everything as well.
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elkhunternm, That May “not” not be my first choice for shots over 400 yards, but for under 400 yards....a hunter could chose “far” worse! memtb My shots at elk have been two hundred yards or less. I ran my DNA....no Indian here. Sometimes, I can’t inside 200 yards!  memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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Ugh.
Once again, IMO as ‘in my opinion’
460 is over kill.
Yes it is better than under gunned, just over kill as elk are not bullet proof and even with a shoulder canon like that a bad shot will not take down an elk.
You ok now? that I approved your 460.
How is the .460 "over kill?" And what is "over kill/"
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Yes, the 460 Wthby is overkill for elk--so is the 340--it's kinda' like driving our turbo diesel pickup to the store for a gallon of milk. But if a turbo diesel is what you've got to fetch milk, then drive it........
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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I had a buddy who loved 458 Win Mags--he had 4 of 'em, 2 were P64 M70's. He even antelope hunted with us and used a 458. He was fond of saying, "No brain, no pain"..........
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively...
Having said that, MAGA.
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Yes, the 460 Wthby is overkill for elk--so is the 340--it's kinda' like driving our turbo diesel pickup to the store for a gallon of milk. But if a turbo diesel is what you've got to fetch milk, then drive it........
Or, if that's just what you feel like using...
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I know a guy that's killed wayy lots of elk with the 6mm Remington and cup-n-core bullets. Heart shot - they drop. Weren't long range nor guided affairs. No rodeos. He taught me you don't need a big cannon, you know, like the 270. Only an ass shot presented, you pass. Heart shots.... 243 minimum for me although I know the 22-250 can get it done. 6.5CM to 7mmRM are all good. That's nice if your hunting on a private preserve. Those of us who hunt on public lands need a real gun.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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.243 works fine on public land in NM. I know a guy that's killed wayy lots of elk with the 6mm Remington and cup-n-core bullets. Heart shot - they drop. Weren't long range nor guided affairs. No rodeos. He taught me you don't need a big cannon, you know, like the 270. Only an ass shot presented, you pass. Heart shots.... 243 minimum for me although I know the 22-250 can get it done. 6.5CM to 7mmRM are all good. That's nice if your hunting on a private preserve. Those of us who hunt on public lands need a real gun.
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