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Cheap 55 gr #13191470 10/09/18
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,520 Pa grovey OP Campfire Regular
OP grovey Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,520 Pa	Looking for a replacement bullet for the Hornady 55gr sp w/c. I bought these "bulk" 55's as a cheap way to get some SHTF type rds put together and put away for a rainy day. Long story short... they shoot like crap in the two accurate rifles I tried them in, so I'm looking to switch up to something that shoots better across the board . Besides better accuracy... they must be CHEAP, stabilize in a 12 twist ( 14 twist even better) , and tough enough to kill a deer shot thru the ribs. What I see out there so far is... Speer 55gr sp Mid south 55 gr Dogtown 55gr Anyone have any experience with any of these? Last edited by grovey; 10/09/18.

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Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13191510 10/09/18
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 10,448 Likes: 2 NE South Dakota Bugger Campfire Outfitter
Bugger Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2014 Posts: 10,448 Likes: 2 NE South Dakota	The only bullet I've used in 22 caliber for deer was in the early 70's -- Winchester available in bulk. They fit your requirements, cheap, tough and accurate enough. I believe I was getting sub MOA with my 22-250. I prefer classic. Semper Fi I used to run with the hare. Now I'm envious of the tortoise and I do my own stunts but rarely intentionally

Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13191533 10/09/18
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,303 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,303 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	Look at american reloading site for Speer 55 Gr. Gold dot bonded. Accurate in my guns and cheaper than Hornady 55s... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13191869 10/09/18
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Ole_270 Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,209 Ks	I bought some of those bulk Hornady 55s since the standard box version was so accurate in my 22-250 (better than v-max in this rifle). The bulk are pretty bad in the 22-250 and a very accurate AR-15, but around MOA in my M700 223. Whole different ballgame than the Nosler 2nds I get. I've settled on the Nosler "shots" 50 gr from the Pro Shop for my bulk AR ammo. I get under 3/4" in my Rock River Coyote rifle. These are over supply from Australia rabbit ammo I think. Haven't tried the 55 gr version. I haven't tried them on deer, but the coyotes don't like them.

Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13191920 10/09/18
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antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 31,025 Likes: 3 Colorado	The 55gr Dogtowns are the Nosler SHOT's bullets. Accurate but the have a very thin jacket, IMO too thin for deer. You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

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Re: Cheap 55 gr ingwe #13192027 10/09/18
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gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,113 Likes: 2 Annapolis, Md.	Originally Posted by ingwe Look at american reloading site for Speer 55 Gr. Gold dot bonded. Accurate in my guns and cheaper than Hornady 55s... Ditto regarding those those bullets. Truth be told, the 55 Hornady sp cannelured bullets shoot dizzyingly accurately in my AR so I buy whichever one is the best price in bulk. "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13193508 10/09/18
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,520 Pa grovey OP Campfire Regular
OP grovey Campfire Regular Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 2,520 Pa	Thanks... I'll give those Speer's a try then. I actually had decent groups with the H 55's in the 100ct boxes a few yrs back, but the bulk ones nowadays not so much. I netted one 3/4" group in load development, but most were in the 1 1/2" range. I want something that shoots sub moa easily in a proven rifle .

Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13221370 10/21/18
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2ndtimer Campfire Regular 2 Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 501 Kennewick, WA	You might try these: https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/77626 Price is Right, cheap shipping, they shoot very well in my AR's and good enough in my ,1 in 12" twist 700 SPS Varmint.

Re: Cheap 55 gr antelope_sniper #13221501 10/21/18
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Prwlr Campfire Outfitter Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,258 Colorado Springs, CO	Originally Posted by antelope_sniper The 55gr Dogtowns are the Nosler SHOT's bullets. Accurate but the have a very thin jacket, IMO too thin for deer. Nosler Shots= 55 DTs and Mid South 55 Varmint Extreme. Mid South 55 gr Varmint Nightmare= Hornady 55 sp w/c. Ed A person who asks a question is a fool for 5 minutes the person who never asks is a fool forever. The worst slaves are those that put the chains on themselves.

Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13228343 10/24/18
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rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,453 Likes: 2 Texas	The bulk 55 gr. Hornady bullets come apart when fired from my 1-7 twist AR. The jacket comes lose at the nose and they start tumbling. Dog I rescued in January

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Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13228515 10/24/18
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keith Campfire Tracker K Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 7,202 Likes: 1	Hornady 55g with the cannalure are the toughest, second by Sierra spt. Toughest of all 55g is the Speer bonded Gold Dot. Midway has them and they are very, very accurate in my 14T 22/250 at 3700 with varget, IMR 4320, and Win 760, AA2700.

Re: Cheap 55 gr keith #13229117 10/24/18
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,303 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,303 Likes: 2 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by keith Hornady 55g with the cannalure are the toughest, second by Sierra spt. Toughest of all 55g is the Speer bonded Gold Dot. Midway has them and they are very, very accurate in my 14T 22/250 at 3700 with varget, IMR 4320, and Win 760, AA2700. Agree with all this...haven't tried the 55 Gold Dot on game yet...hopefully in a couple days.. But yeah..they were easy to get them to shoot well... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: Cheap 55 gr grovey #13229494 10/24/18
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Slope77 Campfire Regular S Joined: May 2017 Posts: 1,732 Likes: 2 ND	Sierra 1365 spitzer boattails shoot nice in my 22-250

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