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How so?

Unless you’re splitting some very fine academic hairs I think they’re essentially identical in any hunting application either is appropriate for...

I'm having a hard time finding Accubond ammo for my 708, 140gr seems out of stock everywhere.

Back before men used skin moisturize.

This. They're both great but the 6.5 CM is no doubt having an impact on the 7-08 and I'm sure has probably about put the nail in the coffin for the .260 in factory rifles.

Kinda puzzled on how different they are myself

And eye-bag cream.

Nope. My 7mm08 isn't going anywhere

I agree. Curious as well...

I have too many other rifles the better fill the lightweight niche for the application I need them for. I will be posting it for sale here in the next week.

I have a LH Ruger Hawkeye that keeps 5 in a three quarter inch group. Want another rifle because I love them so look at the Creed and the 708. Just bought a Christensen Mesa LH in 708. Why, I don't see any advantage of the 6.5 over the 7-08 which I love. Nuf said

Is it the threaded 18" model?

Frankly, I wouldn't miss either one if they were to disappear tomorrow.

My only experience with a 7-08 was in a Remington 700 Mountain Rifle. I shot 120, 130, and 140 grain bullets in it trying to find a good accurate hunting load. My full throttle 140 grain loads had a little more noticeable recoil than I would have thought it would have been, but nothing really objectionable.

Most of my 6.5 Creedmoor shooting has been done with a Howa, and some with a Remington 700. The Howa weighed at least a 1 1/2 or 2 pounds more than the Mountain Rifle, so there was no felt recoil when shooting it. I'd say it was about like shooting a 243. The Remington 700 in 6.5 weighs 8 1/2 pounds with scope, sling, and 4 rounds of ammo in the rifle. I've not noticed the recoil with it either.

I'd say with all things being equal, rifles of equal weight, the average shooter couldn't tell the difference between the two.

I can't tell a difference in recoil between the two. I guess if I was shooting hot loads with heavies in the 7-08, there may be some difference.

Right now, I shooting factory 120 NBT ammo in the 7-08. I put it together too late to work up loads.

BTW, the new NBT's are pretty hard compared to the one we shot 20 yrs. ago. Those tended to blow up with shallow penetration. The 120 NBT out of the 7-08 punched thru a WT chest, small entrance, 2" exit. Not a lot of damage, buck ran 50 yds and piled up. I guess it was enough damage to prove fatal, as he ended up in the skinning shed, subsequently the cooler.

Dead is dead.

I'm working on loads for the Creed, thinking about VLD's for quicker chest shot kills. I have 130 and 140 VLD Hunting, 135 Classic Hunter to try. The Creed shoots very tight groups with the 123 gr. Scenar over Varget. May go with that combo. Also have 136L and 139 Scenars to try. Scenars seem a bit harder than the Bergers. Both bullets have thin jackets, the Scenar alloy must be a bit harder.

DF

As long as the power of the 6.5 is enough for the game at hand, shouldn't the recoil comparison should be between bullets of like BC (rather than weight) at a given velocity?

Well, the 7mm bullet will be heavier than the 6.5mm, B.C's being equal. I guess that's the point you're making.

So, at the same or similar speed, the 7mm should kick a bit more than the 6.5mm..

DF

It will be more, but is it detectable, probably not.



I think the recoil comparison should be between the typical bullets that are being used in each. Most people don't use bullets heavier than 140's in the 7-08.

I don't, in fact like 120's.

But mathman does make a valid point concerning like kind comparables.

Hard to argue with mathman...

He's usually right...

DF

I’m gonna try the 150 LRAB in my 7mm08 and the 142 LRAB in my Swede. We’ll see how they perk with Big Game and R26....

I’d like to try the same. I think that 142 ABLR would be wicked in the Swede. Right now the Swedes bumping 2900 with the 140 ABs.

Let us know how it works.