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Would like to hear experience with Western Mountaineering sleeping bags. I’m considering a semi rectangular model, will be used on fall mountain back country back packing hunts and trips. Looking closely at the Bristlecone. I’d like to know if experience with outer shells as well as how the accuracy of the temperature ratings.
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Got my first WM bag in 1992. Between my wife and I we've had 7 total, and currently have 3. That's about as good an endorsement as I can give. WM temp ratings are as accurate as any temp rating can be (there are so many variables that go into how individuals react to temps - which can change daily - its tough to be dogmatic). Shells? Which one? They make something like three different ones. I've had all three, they're all great. All ours currently (an Alpinlite, Versalite, and Ultralite) have their lightest shell material. no issues. I've also had a Dryloft, original Goretex, and Microfiber shells. Full on Goretex is no longer available (for good reason). Hard to go wrong with Microfiber. I always buy from Hermit's Hut as they offer free overfill... something I've always gotten. https://hermitshut.com/collections/western-mountaineering/free-overfillAlso, would add, a -10F bag is really a bit too much for most fall hunting. It's a common mistake to get "too much bag" when starting out. Were I you, I'd get one with a temp rating between 5-15*F... as large a bag as you're considering it's a small matter to layer clothes in the bag. Get the Sequoia model...
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Brad,
What is “overfill”???
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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My wife and I have had 3 and love them. Our current bags both have the microfiber shell which works great. We sleep in in a tipi which sometimes develops a fair amount of condensation and the microfiber replies drips pretty well. I have an antelope I think, 5 deg bag, and my wife has the Lynx, -10 deg. Our coldest morning during October elk hunts the past few years was -6 inside the tipi and we were both comfortable.
We’ve gotten ours at Bent Gate Mountaineering in Golden, CO. They have pretty much all of the bags with all the shells in stock so you can see and touch and the sales people are very good.
After a series of expensive but cheaply made bags (Mountain Hardwear, REI)I will always choose WM...the WM bags are well made, durable, and don’t lose loft like the big name brands. One funny example: back when REI and their no questions asked return policy, I returned a Mountain hardwear bag that had lost half it’s loft after 3 years. The sales person told that was normal and I had gotten my money’s worth.
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Blair,
I have had several WM products over the years. They make excellent stuff. I currently have one of their bags and a jacket that I use for backpack hunting. Call or text me if you have any questions.
Chet
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Would like to hear experience with Western Mountaineering sleeping bags. I’m considering a semi rectangular model, will be used on fall mountain back country back packing hunts and trips. Looking closely at the Bristlecone. I’d like to know if experience with outer shells as well as how the accuracy of the temperature ratings. I have 3 WM semi-rectangular bags: mitylite, sycamore, and sequoia. The temp ratings seem pretty accurate. The only time I've been cold in one at a temp above the rating was in fairly high wind ... so to be expected. I suspect the Gore Windstopper version would have worked better that night but a tent that stopped the damned wind would have as well.
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I appreciate all the very thoughtful responses. I’ll give you a whistle, Chet.
Thanks again.
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WM bags are about as good as you can get IMO. Honestly we (seekoutside.com ) , started carrying them a bit ago , because some people kept asking if we were ever going to do sleep gear. I honestly don't really see much reason to try and improve on them. They are pricey, but it is far cheaper to buy a good bag that works than to keep buying bags because they don't
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I like the looks of the sequoia, if you had to choose between the MF and GWS which would you choose?
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I have owned 2 of their bags, an Antelope and now own the Bristecone. I regret selling the antelope when I needed $ several years ago. They are great bags and their temperature ratings are among the most accurate of several different manufacturers I have owned over the years. They are a quality company and make a quality product IMO.
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I like the looks of the sequoia, if you had to choose between the MF and GWS which would you choose? Mine is MF. I think if I had it to do again, I'd try the GWS. I camp in some windy places in winter and sometimes even a tent doesn't slow the air down enough to keep it from "robbing" heat. I don't know if it would help but it seems worth a try. I may wind up using a bivy sack over the bag instead.
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Holy bat guano Batman.... These ain't cheap !
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I have their Badger bag which is an over-sized mummy in the Gore Dryloft shell. I think I bought it maybe 9 years ago, only used it a couple nights due to it being really warm but it sure was nice on those nights. Especially with the bit of extra room you get versus some other mummy bags. Not cheap but IMHO worth it!!
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I've got 3 WM sleeping bags. WM is the best of the best. Their temperature estimates are the most accurate of all the manufacturers. Feathered Friends is another super high quality down product maker comparable to WM. http://featheredfriends.com/down-sleeping-bags.htmlWith the time, effort, and expense of getting into good hunting habitat, not sleeping warm each night to maximize recovery after working hard during the day is foolish savings. JMHO.
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A while ago I went through a variety of bags -- North Face, Wiggy's, Slumberjack (military line), Mountainsmith (when they briefly made some higher end ultralight bags) and Big Agnes. Bought a WM and never looked back. Don't have plans to get another bag, unless it's another WM.
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Recommend a WM bag for a woman camping. Nothing too extreme.
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Terralite .. big / comfy and under 2 lbs .. also can be zipped to another for a couple
It is what my wife uses and I may consider one for myself for very cold combined with the quilt .. should be good below 0 combined
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