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Some here have questioned how a Democrat can use and enjoy guns. It's because we appreciate fine workmanship, hunting, as Roosevelt called it, "the strenuous life", and also believe in truth, justice and the rule of law. While promoting illegal immigration. Hah! 
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The liberal douche bags Piddler an L Beans show up and a harmless thread about a beautiful old shotgun turns into a chit.show.
Anyone surprised?
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The liberal douche bags Piddler an L Beans show up and a harmless thread about a beautiful old shotgun turns into a chit.show.
Anyone surprised? It's what Commie trolls do. What is surprising is they are allowed to do so here. Unmitigated. But, even that isn't surprising anymore. That's exactly why many, many long term members have left this place.
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The liberal douche bags Piddler an L Beans show up and a harmless thread about a beautiful old shotgun turns into a chit.show.
Anyone surprised? Read the thread again. Other folks brought up party affiliation, I merely responded politely.
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Oh, Dr. Dooshbag.
You and BeanBag ought not talk that way. Dont you gals have some women's march you could be attending? I bet you already have the correct headgear.
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Oh, Dr. Dooshbag.
You and BeanBag ought not talk that way. Dont you gals have some women's march you could be attending? I bet you already have the correct headgear.
Scouting ducks today.
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I am sorry to have to tell ya, it has been torched. Its value is next to zero.
Does being an [bleep] come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it? Do you have any comparable shotguns you'd sell for "next to zero"? Good looking shotgun. Ithaca made quality stuff. Sorry you feel that way. Ithaca did make great stuff actually. But someone ruined that one with a torch. You cannot fix that problem, though an unethical person could hide it. No, I do not own a comparable shotgun. Mine are much finer than that and worth a fair bit in some cases. None of them have been torched. Two of them are even Ithacas. Do you understand what it means to "torch" a gun? I guess not. I was unaware of this practice, and appreciate the education. What I do not appreciate is the fact you can't deliver this information without being a condescending prick.
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Oh, Dr. Dooshbag.
You and BeanBag ought not talk that way. Dont you gals have some women's march you could be attending? I bet you already have the correct headgear.
Scouting dicks today. Okay then.
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I am sorry to have to tell ya, it has been torched. Its value is next to zero.
Does being an [bleep] come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it? Do you have any comparable shotguns you'd sell for "next to zero"? Good looking shotgun. Ithaca made quality stuff. Sorry you feel that way. Ithaca did make great stuff actually. But someone ruined that one with a torch. You cannot fix that problem, though an unethical person could hide it. No, I do not own a comparable shotgun. Mine are much finer than that and worth a fair bit in some cases. None of them have been torched. Two of them are even Ithacas. Do you understand what it means to "torch" a gun? I guess not. I was unaware of this practice, and appreciate the education. What I do not appreciate is the fact you can't deliver this information without being a condescending prick. Really? I'm being the prick? Apparently you didn't read very much. Try it from the beginning.
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I am sorry to have to tell ya, it has been torched. Its value is next to zero.
Does being an [bleep] come naturally to you, or do you have to work at it? Do you have any comparable shotguns you'd sell for "next to zero"? Good looking shotgun. Ithaca made quality stuff. Sorry you feel that way. Ithaca did make great stuff actually. But someone ruined that one with a torch. You cannot fix that problem, though an unethical person could hide it. No, I do not own a comparable shotgun. Mine are much finer than that and worth a fair bit in some cases. None of them have been torched. Two of them are even Ithacas. Do you understand what it means to "torch" a gun? I guess not. I was unaware of this practice, and appreciate the education. What I do not appreciate is the fact you can't deliver this information without being a condescending prick. Really? I'm being the prick? Apparently you didn't read very much. Try it from the beginning. Rarely do you not come across as a prick.
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Leroy, please show us some pics of guns that blew up or cracked due to this procedure.
Hell, just one would do... It would be a start.
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I am sorry to have to tell ya, it has been torched. Its value is next to zero.
Thats what the lying pos told me at a gun show after looking at my exhibition grade walnut stocked semiauto Win 63. I asked him if that would apply to my Dale Goens restocked exhibition grade marble cake pre 64 win featherwt mod 70. The cronies around him laughed at his stupid remark. You are one mo stupid shmo bro. He's a lieberal. He knows no better. Great 16 gauge, Ed. Very nice indeed!
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We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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I know very little about metallurgy. Could someone please clarify how torch heating the action would compromise the safety of this shotgun? Does the heat make it brittle, soft, or what? Would it not be difficult to heat that large a chunk of steel enough to render it unsafe? I figure the barrel and case head of the shotgun shell handles most, if not all of the pressure. I would think the worst possible outcome would be that the action and barrel would become loose with much use.
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Leroy, please show us some pics of guns that blew up or cracked due to this procedure.
Hell, just one would do... It would be a start. Why would I do that? I don't keep pictures of such guns any more than I keep pictures of trashed muscle cars. Find them on your own.
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It looks to me like a careful torch case is safer than a full case hardening, just because there's less risk of warpage. In this discussion, doppelflinten talks about professionals using a torch. It doesn't sound like they get the action hotter than several hundred degrees, certainly not over a thousand. FWIW, the described finish doesn't sound very durable. But that's another discussion. The action isn't "ruined". I'll admit the possibility is there that someone could go crazy with the heat. https://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=126&t=250004&start=20
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Leroy, please show us some pics of guns that blew up or cracked due to this procedure.
Hell, just one would do... It would be a start. Why would I do that? I don't keep pictures of such guns any more than I keep pictures of trashed muscle cars. Find them on your own. Ah. You can't. Got it.
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Leroy, please show us some pics of guns that blew up or cracked due to this procedure.
Hell, just one would do... It would be a start. Why would I do that? I don't keep pictures of such guns any more than I keep pictures of trashed muscle cars. Find them on your own. Ah. You can't. Got it. That's what I said. I don't have any such pictures. Pretty provocative, eh?
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That's what I said. I don't have any such pictures. Pretty provocative, eh? Provocative? Blow Hard. All hat and no cattle... You just run your mouth without any substance to back it up. You don't even try. You don't want to prove your point. You just want to run your mouth, and throw schidt on the walls when your betters are having an adult conversation.
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. You just want to run your mouth, and throw schidt on the walls when your betters are having an adult conversation.
My betters? Certainly, not you. You are clueless about vintage firearms. But you do like to "run your mouth". Only jag can run with you in that regard.
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. You just want to run your mouth, and throw schidt on the walls when your betters are having an adult conversation.
My betters? Certainly, not you. You are clueless about vintage firearms. But you do like to "run your mouth". Only jag can run with you in that regard. Do tell. What vintage firearms am I clueless about?
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