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Yeah, me too.
All my magnums, except for the big ones (338 & >) are gone.
Standard non-belted rounds only; never needed more, really.
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Finding a cartridge that doesn't work well on deer is the challenge.
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I think I’m about done being a rifle loony. NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
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I don’t believe that there is anything more effective on whitetails than a 30-06 stoked with 150s running 2900 FPS or better. Every deer I’ve ever shot with that combination just flops over and dies. They don’t run 30 yards, they don’t meander around, it is literally bang and flop.
Obviously, you've likely never killed deer with a 45-70 then. But if your experience with the 'o6 is as you describe, that's not exactly the norm with that cartridge, so far as 100% bang-flops go. How many have you killed with it? MM Shot one with a 45-70 last year. It penetrated literally from stem to stern and did amazing damage. Deer ran 100 yards with no blood before tipping over. In excess of fifty with the 30-06. I've not killed 50 with a 45-70............25-30, but never had a one take a step; 405 grain Win/Speer boolits, 53 gr. IMR-3031 at 1850 FPS. MM
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL.
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate.............
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I thought this was going to be a 270wsm thread.
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate............. Or my 1970 760 gamemaster with no recoil pad.
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I have had 2 run from the 06. It certainly is a death ray. I've also shot with the .270 and .280 with death ray results. Actually, not a step was taken my a deer from either caliber.
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It's all about the bullet....the cartridge is just the motivator....
One man with courage makes a majority....
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It's all about the bullet***....the cartridge is just the motivator.... And how/where it lands.
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I think a lot of us experience the same feeling you do once hunting season gets going. Perhaps not with the 30-06 but with what ever number they are using. All year long we fantasize about trying out new guns and loads but when hunting season starts reality kicks in and we realize we already have the right tool for the job as long as we do our part.
Yesterday I just took a large doe through the neck with my 45-70 using a Speer 400gr JSP at around 1600 fps. That deer did not go anywhere and I had the same thoughts you did. If I would have used my 30-06 i still would have felt the same way.
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It's all about the bullet***....the cartridge is just the motivator.... And how/where it lands. Yes sir...
One man with courage makes a majority....
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate............. The U.S. military stopped using it for a reason.................... just sayin'. MM
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate............. I know how you feel. I used to have one of those on my Rem 700 BDL 30-06 until I replaced it with a Pachmyer Decelorater recoil pad.
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate............. The U.S. military stopped using it for a reason.................... just sayin'. MM I know. They needed something that women and effeminate Yankees could shoot well.
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate............. I know how you feel. I used to have one of those on my Rem 700 BDL 30-06 until I replaced it with a Pachmyer Decelorater recoil pad. I thought the .270 was brutal, until I shot it in something other than my 1980 vintage Remington 700 ADL.
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate............. The U.S. military stopped using it for a reason.................... just sayin'. MM And back in the 30s, they were going to go with a .277 caliber round. Then, of course, they realized that homosexuals weren’t allowed to serve and had to revert back to the 30-06.
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The 30-06 doesn’t recoil, LOL. I wish someone had told that to the Model 700 ADL I used to have. The one with the hard plastic buttplate............. The U.S. military stopped using it for a reason.................... just sayin'. MM I know. They needed something that women and effeminate Yankees could shoot well. TFF ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/dEDAykj.gif) But a grain or 2 of truth as well. Also influenced by NATO standardizing on the 7.62 round. MM
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I have three of them. I have complete confidence in my 30-06’s. I shoot Ballistic tips or Barnes in mine. 150 grainers
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