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Extremely short barrel life forced me to handicap my submission. 195 EOL on steel lunched from 751 yards off a mountain top at 3064fps. Setup prone off spike footed Evolution Bipod, 8-10mph wind @ 90° from right. I took 1/10 Mil off windage between the first shot and the second two. I’d only had 6 hours sleep in the previous 72, so don’t blame the rifle.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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I shot a Kimber Montana with its skimpy little pencil barrel over a range bag wadded up best as I could, competing with all these truck axle guns and pedestal front rests and didn't even get an honorable mention... I don't know if I'll ever get over it.
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I'm not sure my 22-250AI has much better barrel life than anything else but I'm trying to shoot it out.
Barrels are cheap.
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Good thread guys. I'm wondering where all those "moa ALL day long" rifles are. Remington 700's, bergaras, tikka. Come on let's see them. I went out and bought a cheap azzed Steven's 200, just to prove it doesn't have to be expensive to shoot good. We'll see how she does.. I'm so broke I can't even afford a can of spam. Much less a Stevens 200 rifle.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Campfire 'Bwana
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Good thread guys. I'm wondering where all those "moa ALL day long" rifles are. Remington 700's, bergaras, tikka. Come on let's see them. I went out and bought a cheap azzed Steven's 200, just to prove it doesn't have to be expensive to shoot good. We'll see how she does.. I'm so broke I can't even afford a can of spam. Much less a Stevens 200 rifle. I heard you indians like spam....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Campfire 'Bwana
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I'm not sure my 22-250AI has much better barrel life than anything else but I'm trying to shoot it out.
Barrels are cheap. Barrels are cheap and they were made to be worn out huh buddy...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Extremely short barrel life forced me to handicap my submission. 195 EOL on steel lunched from 751 yards off a mountain top at 3064fps. Setup prone off spike footed Evolution Bipod, 8-10mph wind @ 90° from right. I took 1/10 Mil off windage between the first shot and the second two. I’d only had 6 hours sleep in the previous 72, so don’t blame the rifle. Nice shooting. However, sadly enough, 3 shot groups are not good enough...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Now, to get this back on track. I shot today. Left the door wide open for more contenders. John even posted a thread in the long range forum. Bless his heart. I went shooting today. Shot 2 targets and that was it. The wind sucked and it was cold. I knew it would do my shooting no favors at all and I was right. However, it is what it is: RIFLE: 6.5 creedmoor savage 12FV cabela's exclusive el cheapo with SWFA SS 16x and 140gr. ELDM handloads. Target was set downrange at 100 yards. Target set up downrange and pic of range. Stevens 200 on bench in pic: Target pic: Caliper for reference: Average MOA: .798
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Second rifle and submission of the day:Stevens 200 glass bedded into savage trophy hunter stock. El cheapo Weaver cv16 4-16x42 rifle scope, 50gr. v-max handloads in 1x fired brass. Timney trigger about the only upgrade.... Fairly light hunting rifle with skinny barrel... Range pic with target set up at 100 yards: Target pic: Caliper for reference: Average MOA: .840Note: cold and windy as fu ck. Blew target stand over, before I could even get the first shot off. Had to walk downrange and set target stand back up and put rocks on the base, so it would not blow over again... Both of these rifles appear to be good consistent moa shooters. Only shot these targets today. Will shoot again on a better day.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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New unofficial results:
1. Robertham1 .510 MOA 2. Hondo64d .596 MOA 3. Certifiable .646 MOA 4. m1919 .655 MOA 5. m1919 .701 MOA 6. bsa1917hunter .798 MOA 7. bsa1917hunter .840 MOA 8. bsa1917hunter .866 MOA Light rifle: New stevens 200 22-250 9. bsa1917hunter .892 MOA Heavy rifle: New Savage 12fv 6.5 CM 10. Higbean .927 MOA
Great shooting guys. Keep those entries coming in....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I shot a Kimber Montana with its skimpy little pencil barrel over a range bag wadded up best as I could, competing with all these truck axle guns and pedestal front rests and didn't even get an honorable mention... I don't know if I'll ever get over it. Did I tell you, I like your style? Great shooting buddy!!
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Wonder if this thread might have got more response on the Long Range Hunting or Hunting rifles section...
John I just went over there and those mother fu ckers are stuck on 3 shot groups.. That and crapmores..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Extremely short barrel life forced me to handicap my submission. 195 EOL on steel lunched from 751 yards off a mountain top at 3064fps. Setup prone off spike footed Evolution Bipod, 8-10mph wind @ 90° from right. I took 1/10 Mil off windage between the first shot and the second two. I’d only had 6 hours sleep in the previous 72, so don’t blame the rifle. Last of that post says something that some folks miss out on... with lack of sleep, the odds of a nervous mistake area bout nil... you are on auto pilot, and your auto pilot seems well programmed.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Wonder if this thread might have got more response on the Long Range Hunting or Hunting rifles section...
John I just went over there and those mother fu ckers are stuck on 3 shot groups.. That and crapmores.. Three shot groups, front rests... Who gives a schit at this point? If you wanna stretch the rules, why not do 50 yards bsa? It was kinda fun for a bit, but as always, turned to schit.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Wonder if this thread might have got more response on the Long Range Hunting or Hunting rifles section...
John I just went over there and those mother fu ckers are stuck on 3 shot groups.. That and crapmores.. Three shot groups, front rests... Who gives a schit at this point? If you wanna stretch the rules, why not do 50 yards bsa? It was kinda fun for a bit, but as always, turned to schit. Should we have a 50 yard shoot instead?
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Wonder if this thread might have got more response on the Long Range Hunting or Hunting rifles section...
John I just went over there and those mother fu ckers are stuck on 3 shot groups.. That and crapmores.. Three shot groups, front rests... Who gives a schit at this point? If you wanna stretch the rules, why not do 50 yards bsa? It was kinda fun for a bit, but as always, turned to schit. Should we have a 50 yard shoot instead? Make it 25 but people can claim it was 50.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Wonder if this thread might have got more response on the Long Range Hunting or Hunting rifles section...
John I just went over there and those mother fu ckers are stuck on 3 shot groups.. That and crapmores.. Three shot groups, front rests... Who gives a schit at this point? If you wanna stretch the rules, why not do 50 yards bsa? It was kinda fun for a bit, but as always, turned to schit. I'll put a bi-pod on my savage and use a rear bag, if it would make you feel better. However, last i heard, the front rests were good to go. Did that change again? You are right though, it was fun at first. Now there's just too much pissing and moaning/crying. I'm walking away from this thread, knowing my 2 newest "unproven" rifles with cheap used scopes are sub moa all day long shooters, just like the rest of my "proven" rifles. Its been damn fun, but extremely disappointing in the end. It seems all the big talk of those 1/2 moa rifles, is just a wet dream concocted by the typical arm chair bandits here. I was hoping they would, in fact, prove me wrong. But you know how that goes. Too bad this thread went to chit. However, now we know who has the "moa all day long" rifles, and whose not afraid to shoot said rifles..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Wonder if this thread might have got more response on the Long Range Hunting or Hunting rifles section...
John I just went over there and those mother fu ckers are stuck on 3 shot groups.. That and crapmores.. Three shot groups, front rests... Who gives a schit at this point? If you wanna stretch the rules, why not do 50 yards bsa? It was kinda fun for a bit, but as always, turned to schit. Should we have a 50 yard shoot instead? Make it 25 but people can claim it was 50. If it were only 50, I'd be shooting my 17HMR...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I’m actually shocked how few people participated in this “challange”. With a forum consisting of thousands and thousands of like minded hunters/shooters who are passionate enough about guns to regularly log on and read/post, I’d have bet there would have more participants. There are some hunters who’s load development is done at 2 moa, but there’s a lot of folks here who not only have the gear, but have the skill to shoot tiny groups consistantly.
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For me, it’s a seasonal thing. This kind of shooting suits my Winter schedule.
If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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