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What "category" are you talking about? When it comes to supersonic external ballistics, the only categories that matter are drag profile and velocity. We generally represent the drag profile with an appropriately modeled ballistic coefficient.
7RM - 180gr ELD-M, 0.401 G7 BC, 2950 fps (or if you prefer) 195 Elite Hybrid, 0.387 G7 BC, 2900 fps
.300RUM - 225gr ELD-M, 0.391 G7 BC, 2900 fps
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but fantasizing the RUM doesn't change physics. The .300 RUM is a great chambering for specific applications, but it's not magic.
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Sorriest cartridge that’s ever been sluffed off onto the ignorant!!
Even birds know not to land downwind!
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Your thoughts on why? Aside from hunting in LA 😎
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Sorriest cartridge that’s ever been sluffed off onto the ignorant!! Oh I can think of much worse cartridges that been as you say sluffed onto the ignorant..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Sorriest cartridge that’s ever been sluffed off onto the ignorant!! Oh I can think of much worse cartridges that been as you say sluffed onto the ignorant.. I’m sure he was referring to himself and hunting in Louisiana 😎
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The numbers I posted for the 225gr ELD Match in a 300 Remington Ultra Magnum Cartridge are based on actual data that the bullet manufacturer ( Hornady ) obtained from Doppler Radar readings . Not some made up hypothetical numbers with no basis. Reference ... Hornady Reloading Data Manual ... 10th edition.
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The numbers I posted for the 225gr ELD Match in a 300 Remington Ultra Magnum Cartridge are based on actual data that the bullet manufacturer ( Hornady ) obtained from Doppler Radar readings . Not some made up hypothetical numbers with no basis. Reference ... Hornady Reloading Data Manual ... 10th edition.
Oh man I'm getting a headache... the 180gr ELD-M 7mm bullet has G1 BC of .796 .. in short as some been trying to tell you that 7mm whatever will outshoot the RUM
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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The numbers I posted for the 225gr ELD Match in a 300 Remington Ultra Magnum Cartridge are based on actual data that the bullet manufacturer ( Hornady ) obtained from Doppler Radar readings . Not some made up hypothetical numbers with no basis. Reference ... Hornady Reloading Data Manual ... 10th edition.
Hell the 338 285gr eld-m with a bc of .829 will out shoot the rum, granted anything 338 mag going beat you up pretty good probably less than that rum
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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This is literally the textbook example of willful ignorance.
As defined:
"Willful ignorance is the state and practice of ignoring any sensory input that appears to contradict one's inner model of reality. At heart, it is almost certainly driven by confirmation bias.
Willful ignorance differs from ordinary “ignorance“ — when someone is simply unaware of something — in that willfully ignorant people are fully aware of facts, resources and sources, but refuse to acknowledge them. Indeed, calling someone "ignorant" shouldn’t really be a pejorative, but intentional and willful ignorance is an entirely different matter. In practice though, the word "ignorance" has often come to mean "willful ignorance", and indeed, in many non-English languages, the word based on the same stem ("ignore") actually carries that meaning.[citation needed]
Willful ignorance is sometimes referred to as tactical stupidity.
Depending on the nature and strength of an individual's pre-existing beliefs, willful ignorance can manifest itself in different ways. The practice can entail completely disregarding established facts, evidence and/or reasonable opinions if they fail to meet one's expectations. Often the willfully ignorant will make excuses, claiming that a source is unreliable, suggesting that an experiment was flawed or asserting that an opinion is too biased. More often than not this is simple circular reasoning: “I cannot agree with that source because it is untrustworthy because it disagrees with me”.
In other slightly more extreme cases, willful ignorance can involve outright refusal to read, hear or study, in any way, anything that does not conform to the willfully ignorant person's worldview.
With regard to oneself, this can even extend to fake locked-in syndrome with complete unresponsiveness. Or with regard to others, to outright censorship of the material from others."
Next I am waiting to hear about how the .300 RUM's bullets rise once they leave the barrel, rather than fall, due to their awesomeness compared to all others...
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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A friend of mine calls it "aggressively ignorant," which seems particularly appropriate to the Internet.
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I don't know where your getting your data for your 7mm , but you must be dreaming cuz those numbers don't exist , so wake up and smell the gun powder
And as far as the 338, of course it can do that , it's in another category My point exactly
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I don't know where your getting your data for your 7mm , but you must be dreaming cuz those numbers don't exist , so wake up and smell the gun powder
And as far as the 338, of course it can do that , it's in another category My point exactly
Ok now you are just trolling.. someone sock puppet anyhow here are those number straight from hornady https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/7mm-.284-180-gr-eld-match
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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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What's interesting is that the same Data Information that your using for your 7mm also shows the Data for the 300 RUM that exceeds the 7mm bullet B.C.'s
BULLET MACH 2.25 MACH 2.0 MACH 1.75
… 7mm 180gr. ELD Match … 0.777 0.748 0.731
.. 30 Cal. 225gr. ELD Match … 0.798 0.782 0.749
Good post, Thanks for showing the proof .
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What's interesting is that the same Data Information that your using for your 7mm also shows the Data for the 300 RUM that exceeds the 7mm bullet B.C.'s
BULLET MACH 2.25 MACH 2.0 MACH 1.75
… 7mm 180gr. ELD Match … 0.777 0.748 0.731
.. 30 Cal. 225gr. ELD Match … 0.798 0.782 0.749
Good post, Thanks for showing the proof . You know you got them flipped backwards.. .308 225gr eld-m G1 bc .777 and the .284 180gr eld-m G1 bc is .798.. https://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/30-cal-.308-225-gr-eld-matchhttps://www.hornady.com/bullets/rifle/7mm-.284-180-gr-eld-match
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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What's interesting is that the same Data Information that your using for your 7mm also shows the Data for the 300 RUM that exceeds the 7mm bullet B.C.'s
BULLET MACH 2.25 MACH 2.0 MACH 1.75
… 7mm 180gr. ELD Match … 0.777 0.748 0.731
.. 30 Cal. 225gr. ELD Match … 0.798 0.782 0.749
Good post, Thanks for showing the proof . Lol I see what you did you took the data for .308 using a 1-7 twist but you used the data for .284 using 1-8 twist to get the numbers in your favor lol.. oh man you are something* else..
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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What's interesting is that the same Data Information that your using for your 7mm also shows the Data for the 300 RUM that exceeds the 7mm bullet B.C.'s
BULLET MACH 2.25 MACH 2.0 MACH 1.75
… 7mm 180gr. ELD Match … 0.777 0.748 0.731
.. 30 Cal. 225gr. ELD Match … 0.798 0.782 0.749
Good post, Thanks for showing the proof . You poor poor(literally) RETARDED Fhuqkstick...I'm laughing soooooooooo fhuqking hard I'm crying!!!!! You go girl! Pardon Facts and Physics,RELIABLY colliding with your Delusional DUMBfhuqktitude and the ONLY thing that you "shoot" is your Imagination and Pretend. Hint. Congratulations?!? LAFFIN'! Feel free to "cite" the "platforms" you "shoot" the projectiles you have NEVER even fhuqking "seen" in and mebbe say sumptin' about throat geometry and COAL "latitude"...but be VERY careful in said Delusion(s). Hint. LAFFIN'! Here's a 180 ELD,with a buncha other staples wellllllll beyond your "means","abilities" and "comprehension". Hint. Laffin'! I "only" gun 'em in a herd of rifles chambered 7-08,7-08AI,7 Whizzum,280 and 280AI. Hint. A few more mainstay extrapolations,that you will have to Google,to "see". Hint. Laffin'! 225 ELD bearing surface anyone?!? Hint. Laffin'! As an aside,when you "shoot" your Imagination and it's Pretend,how "loud" is it?!? I realize a 7 Whizzum's splendor,when launching 180 ELD's at 2900fps+ ala a mag fed Smooch,is fhuqking DEAFENING,to your Retardation. Laffin'! I "only" have (3) of 'em,so chambered. Hint. Take another coupla hits,GoogleFu some more and give 'er another whirl,with your BEST efforts,as you proffer Guess after Guess...to them who's afforded the luxury of fhuqking KNOWING. Hint. You CLUELESS Do NOTHING DUMB Fhuqks are a hoot! Bless your heart. Laffin'!
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My first experience with RUM was many years ago, long before it gained fame in the shooting community. Nasty stuff and IMHO the RUM sucks. Whiskey is cool.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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What's interesting is that the same Data Information that your using for your 7mm also shows the Data for the 300 RUM that exceeds the 7mm bullet B.C.'s
BULLET MACH 2.25 MACH 2.0 MACH 1.75
… 7mm 180gr. ELD Match … 0.777 0.748 0.731
.. 30 Cal. 225gr. ELD Match … 0.798 0.782 0.749
Good post, Thanks for showing the proof . Dude, you win! Go forth and crush boulders with your 300 RUM. 😉😎
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Try the Core-Locts in that RUM. Doesn't get any better than the Core-Locts.
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LOL, should nickname that rifle “Mountain Crusher”
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