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No it wasn't a coincidence.You obviously have a lot of experience yourself. Isn't it crazy how these guys get so worked up over bears! I had a bowhunter this year that I've guided many times in the past shoot a young grizzly at 6-yards. We watched the bear coming for 100 yards or so, and the closer the bear got, the more nervous the hunter became. He ended up doing just fine and killed the bear, but he has hunted with us for the last two decades. Can only imagine how that situation would turn out if some of these guys had been sitting on that kill without a guide...

Tripped deer hunting when I was 20 and had an accidental discharge. I was by myself, no one injured. AND TO THIS DAY I NEVER CARRY A RIFLE WITH A HOT CHAMBER. I'f you can't chamber a round and get the job done with 5 down in a Mauser 98, you probably shouldn't be out there. That's how I see it anyway, and for what it's worth, I'd be pretty useless with a semi automatic pistol, but fairly handy with a revolver. I had a Ruger Blackhawk for some time that I shot quite a bit, I haven't fire a semi 50 times in my life.

I guess it's a little late to point out this was an ARCHERY HUNT? The subject is safe game retrieval in grizzly country.

True. If a guide takes responsibility for the clients safety and won't allow the client to carry hot he damn well better keep his firearm at hand and hot. Retrieving game where griz live is an event calling for elevated preparedness and the belief that Murphy is an optimist.



mike r

Can a hunter even pack a loaded pistol in Canada?

I really am starting to understand why DeFlave holds Texans as a group in the regard that he does.

Never thought of that.

Good thing you started a new thread to avoid a shiitestorm.

No you can't, guides can if they have a permit though.

I don't consider myself an expert on fending off a Grizzly attack. But it seems to me if one is serious about the matter, a good 18" barreled 12 gauge pumpgun loaded with 00 would be as good as any and better than most,....and I would probably keep it hot.

Everybody knows that Griz are big and strong,..but I don't believe a lot of people realize that they're also fast,....*damn* fast,...40 mph sprints.

20 yards,...40 mph,....do the math.

20 yards per second.

Imagine three people in line and someone has the 12 with 00... and something happens and they all scatter. Do you want someone with that 00 cutting loose?

Slugs mo' betta, rifles betta yet.

I was thinking of the scenario which was mentioned earlier in the thread,...where one man is deboning a kill in Griz country and one man was keeping a watch out.

Canadian bears are so muck kinder and nicer than their southern counterparts, must of them just mutter a drawn out eeeh, and are on their way!

And all of this, because the unarmed man was standing watch, WTF !

Slugs, still. Those .33 caliber pellets do not dig real deep.

Guide and hunter carrying cold, until 1:50-ish.

This place is great. People take things so personally. Telling Phil Shoemaker how it is in the tundra when they have the ac on in their truck all year. Good stuff.
It is not a personal attack on your abilities when guides say not to carry hot, we would never do it when we were hunting together. I taught my sons not to and they are a touch bit important to me.
Sport fishing for salmon and trout is always with bears nearby. An average fishing day guiding on Moraine, American, Swishak, Chigniks or Big river is mentally exhausting. When you are bear hunting you are searching for them, sport fishing you are wishing they would leave you alone. The story about Phil and the 9mm is a sport fishing on the peninsula story as I understand it.

Good video. Smell us now, lady!! LOL.

Does anyone know what conversation occurred between the guide and client in the event of a bear encounter? They were on a bow hunt so the options were limited to spray and the 10mm Glock. It wouldn't take long for the guide to explain to the client how the Glock worked as he was apparently carrying it "cold". Or better yet, while field dressing, the guide could have chambered a round and posted the hunter. The guide and I did something very similar this past Sept. on the tundra after I killed my bull. The 50 S&W and 6.5 CM were feet away as we worked on the bull and kept a sharp eye out.
Safety is paramount but so is preparation. A lot of uncalled for "snark" on this topic.