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I would take my FN featherweight over a Kimber any day.
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So a Supergrade - Cabela's edition would most likely be a Portugal gun?
Sorta eyeing one on-line to have shuttled over to my local for purchase and thus - can't see how it's stamped.
And yes ingwe - it's a 7mm Mauser, with ideas of a fixed 6 on top for my Michigan deer hunting. Cabelas Ltd. Edition Model 70's are not Portugal guns. All are FN S.C. made and assembled. Serial numbers starting with 35CZY and 35CZZ, etc.
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I have a portugese assembled featherweight in 7mm08 which I havent fired yet. I think/hope they will eventually be good guns, but : The stocks feel like a vertical 2x4 instead of the slim trim shapely stock of the earlier featherweights. I have both. The safety of this new gun is so stiff it is very difficult to move to the "on" position. In fact I purchased this gun by long distance mail or I never would have bought. I have subsequently when i was in Calgary looked at several to see if the safetys were all that stiff, one of them we could not move at all. If winchester was concerned about triggers and potential liability, they should be more concerned about the liability of sending out rifles in which the safety cannot be applied. This is coming from a winchester supporter. I also have an FN featherweight in 270, one of the last assenbled in the USA, and it is perfect in every way, thats why I bought the 7mm08 I commented on.
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While the M70's are treasured rifles they have been replaced by the lighter Kimbers. A Kimber 84M in say 308 is a landmark rifle. The safety even works smoother than the old 70's. Replaced?? Not hardly. Feel free to play Kimber roulette. BTDT, I'll stick with what works, not what looks pretty on the wall.
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While the M70's are treasured rifles they have been replaced by the lighter Kimbers. A Kimber 84M in say 308 is a landmark rifle. The safety even works smoother than the old 70's.
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my only issue with the FN FW's is that the stocks feel a little porky in the grip, magazine, and forearm area. my ruger hawkeye feels much more slender in the wrist. as far as a functional rifle, though, the FN's i've had were very good.
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While the M70's are treasured rifles they have been replaced by the lighter Kimbers. A Kimber 84M in say 308 is a landmark rifle. The safety even works smoother than the old 70's. In some,it burns hotter.
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my only issue with the FN FW's is that the stocks feel a little porky in the grip, magazine, and forearm area. my ruger hawkeye feels much more slender in the wrist. as far as a functional rifle, though, the FN's i've had were very good. Ergos being subjective - I've never felt a rifle that was as good in the mits as a Ruger M77/MKII/Hawkeye - proverbial glove.
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Got no complaints with the one SC FN Fwt. I own (well, maybe the cheap plastic grip-cap) as far as fit and function. But I do really have to agree with Teal and n8 on the Ruger ergs. I have a MKII Ultralight that I bought on here with the Talo special Circassian stock and it is about as perfect a rifle in your hands as I have ever felt, including a couple of pre-64 fwt.s that themselves feel like an extension of your arms. I'm thinking, or at least hoping, that all the concern about the Portuguese units will end up being much ado about nothing. John
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Why are we are talking about molded metal Rugers on a Model 70 thread. I'd take even a Portugese Model 70 over the molded metal Ruger.
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Speaking to how the new model 70's feel in hand, I do notice a difference. Although all my new FN Model 70's feel really good, my two JOC Model 70's feel incredible in hand.
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Stocks are like socks...if they don't look and feel right,I change them.
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Replaced?? Not hardly. Feel free to play Kimber roulette. BTDT, I'll stick with what works, not what looks pretty on the wall.
After owning 6 FN Winchesters, still own 2, I would have to say I've had much better luck with Kimbers, at least they have been more accurate, the safetys work, the triggers are far superior, they don't feel like your lugging a boat anchor around, featherweight my ass.
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Since the 1950's I liked the old M70's for their look and function as well. I have a battery of them complete to my wants from .220 thru .375. They are sighted in and ready. The 243 I got new in 1957 has a new original Winchester barrel on it now in 220 Swift. That's the one an old buddy had and it shoots as well as the 243 did however it does not have the long bullets with it's 1-14" twist. When the Kimbers came out I found them to be lighter and shoot just fine. Once in a while one needed some tuning. This is something that I enjoy. Of late the 270 WSM Montana put it's first shot from a cold barrel right on where it was expected to hit at 200 yds. The bullet it shot the best this season has been the 150 gr SST over RL22 & 215's. So while I have all of the M70's I want it's the Kimbers and custom Mausers that interest me these days. They are all good. 270 WSM
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I spent some time in Portugal this year and it's an amazing place. The industries and quality of the stuff we saw was first-class.
The Leica factory is especially great. Certainly the would not bother with the Portuguese if they were known for inferior products.
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Is that a Super America, or where did you get a stock with a cheekpiece? I'd give just about anything for a stock just like that.
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I picked up a Sporter M70 this summer, Portugal made. Everything about the rifle said Great quality, from fit to finish. Metal above average and it shoots MOA . It was a good purchase no doubt.
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They are Dog Schit and an easy pass.
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They are Dog Schit and an easy pass.
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