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So who is whining now? I could send you some Wisconsin cheese to go with that whine. LOL

WI residents outside the confines of WI hold THE title in world-class entitlement-bitchery.

WI residents outside the confines of WI hold THE title in world-class entitlement-bitchery.

I've been friends with that FWP biologist for the past 40 or so years. He is definitely a science biologist and has probably forgot more about elk biology than most that post here will ever know.

He once explained to me how with proper timing, allowing a proper number of cattle to graze on the forest land in the Wall Cr Area actually benefited the grazing for the elk.

For a website full of conservatives who fancy state rights, there sure is a lot of selfishness going on.

Aside from using it as a management tool (which can be argued as to being "good" or "bad"), multiple use includes livestock grazing every bit as much as recreation, wildlife habitat and whatever else.

I am constantly amazed at how pro rights people are, until it doesn't benefit THEM or what they feel is important....then it's absolute bullshït.

I have a lot of friends in WI, so I know there are good people there. One time I camped next to four guys from WI (strangers), who had made the trip down to hunt a very nice part of the "liberal Colorado" mountains. A part like they don't have in WI. They shot three elk, recovered two.
Gave up on one, said there was a blood trail but it was going uphill so the bull wasn't hurt bad. They left one up on the mountain,for about two days, only a mile away with four of 'em in camp. The guy who shot it dodn't pack any out, but was back down in camp, celebrating. Told me he'd just "go into town, call up an outfitter with horses, and get him out here."

I told him not to count on that, it being hunting season and outfitters being busy with their clients. He told me it'd be no problem, but he was back in a couple hours with his dick in his hand. I gave him the name of the outfitter who I knew was licensed in this particular area and luckily, the guy had some time but it took him another day to get out there. Meanwhile these four lazy F***s left the elk up on the mountain, waiting for the man with horses. I'm pretty sure they were party hunting too because all four were talking about shooting bulls but they let it slip that they only had two bull tags.

It does crack me up to hear someone from WI talk about some other place being liberal though.

I only tell this story because like you horse, I'm tired of listening to NR hunters bitch and moan. If it was up to me, there'd be a lot fewer where I hunt, they're ruining the damn place. I once had another guy from WI complain about "too many people hunting here" when he saw me come around a bend in the trail. Like I ruined his day or something. I sat down on the log next to him and told him I'd been hunting the place for years but didn't remember seeing him back in there. Of course I hadn't, it was the first time he'd hunted the area.

The same guy came stumbling into our camp after dark that night, lost. He was headed down a creek bed that was rough as a corn cob, would've taken him a loooong time to get back to the trailhead. The trail (heavily used and on every map of the area) was about 80 yards up the mountian.

+1

If grazing permits reflected true market value, and predator control was not tax payer subsidized, and if the Vikings would ever win a Super Bowl perhaps we could all b happy!

We are missing $10-15k worth of cattle that are hopefully still alive out on the BLM/CMR.

Calves are lighter, higher rate of opens, it's cheaper for a reason but still a deal.

And the Vikings looked like chit last night.





Our home county charges us $1k(?) a year for predator control. It's all private property and we'd have to put in a request which of course we never do.

Donation.




Mike, the buffalo prairie dumbfucks said they were gonna take out all the man made stock dams.

By God turn it back to how it used to be, 100% natural...


Hopefully they thought about that idea a little longer.

If you're really serious about trying to make money in the cow game PM me.....lol

We put bird ramps in water tanks. Some enviro group was trying to kick ranchers from BLM--they were defending a rare bat species that were drowning in tanks, as well as a few birds. Funny thing was that everyone who cared knew that without the stock tanks the bats likely wouldn't have been able to live there at all! What will the buffalo people do when they start causing prairie chickens, prairie dogs, and mysterious bats go regionally-extinct?

The work to kick ranchers off of public land is constant and poorly thought-out. What do these clowns think the alternative is to ranches?? One college student had been in the area studying a hawk species and was upset to find so many--he was hoping they would be endangered for the cause. Tough enough that the poor folks I met had to fight the elements, drought, and global markets but they also live in limbo that grazing leases could disappear at any time. When I asked why so few adult children worked the ranches the response was that there is not enough revenue to support their young families. Hard to watch such an incredible culture die on the vine and listen to so many liberals mindlessly cheer their demise. I guess getting to know these ranchers and learn their struggles hit a soft spot; I met two widows that were struggling to run their ranches alone so their grandchildren could someday know their lifestyle. If liberals cared to learn about the culture and people that are endangered they might just want to set up protections for them. Most of them can't seem to see the nose in front of their face, like the owner (from New Jersey) of one motel by the park in Ennis told me, "there's no culture here."

Sorry for the rant.