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I've more than a "few" Custom Montuckys and all got better,wearing less shank and a contour dupe...but at least you get to read about it. The Barrett in original guise,has no S/A equal,nor is anything even close.

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A S/A twisted/throated right and wearing the COAL latitude to align same...will simply outpace a L/A which don't.

Why?!? Because bullets matter wayyyyyyyyyy more than headstamps.

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It sounds like you haven't owned/handled many rifles, especially customs. I'd be hesitant to plunk down $3500 for a custom without having a very good understanding of what components I was selecting and why. To quote an american cinema masterpiece "you're like a blind man picking out his favorite porno!" Unless of course you have cash to burn, then go right ahead and be sure and post pictures!

Agreed, balance is an individual thing, but so are the other physical attributes of firearms. We fall back into the whole CHEVY/DODGE/FORD thing, proving that one size/style/design/make/model doesn't fit all.

I have a Forbes 24B in 6.5x55 and think that it is well balanced for a factory rifle. Short and light are attributes that don't add a lot of value for me, but I have about double the number of SA bolt action rifles than LA bolt action rifles because I shoot more short cartridges. In this case, my definition of "short" means cartridges with case lengths less than 55mm that aren't 284 WIN or wildcats based on the 284 WIN case.

I know the post was more in regards to LA vs. SA Fieldcrafts, but out to 2000 yards a 24" 9 twist Kimber Montana 280AI with Hornady 168 ELDM's outpaces a 21" 8 twist Fieldcraft with 180 ELDM's (and of course, does the same if they both use 168's).

The 7-08 may catch it somewhere, but only well beyond the effective range of most.

Velocities are maximums from Nosler, adjusted 25fps per inch for barrel length.


The 7-08 may be more fun to shoot at the range, but when it comes to hunting there's no replacement for displacement.

Let me explain. a few things. I have got, arthritis and hemochromotosis . I'm getting cripple up pretty badly. I am just interested it a lightweight rifle. Everything we own except my wife's model seven is 9+lbs. Just need to reduce some weight on everything hoping that will give me a few more years in the field.

Sent you a PM.

I got a Cooper Model 92 Backcountry in .280 AI a few weeks ago. It fits me well, and the balance is good for me. With a Swarovski Z3 3-9x it weighs 7 pounds exactly. So far I have tried loading just one powder (Hunter) with Barnes LRX 145 gr bullets. After a little fiddling with seating depth my best load (60 gr of Hunter) gave a 0.5 inch 4 shot group at 3050 fps.. I'm going to load more ammo with the same formula and gather more data.

More fun to shoot at the range leads to more shooting, which leads to better bullet placement when hunting, and better bullet placement trumps displacement.

Funny schit! That due the fact,that the only thing you "shoot" is your mouth and Imagination. Congratulations?!?

You GoogleFu DUMB Fhuqks are a hoot!

Bless your heart.

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So, no real answer?



So you can't dispute the facts? Just prefer to insult me?

Have we reached the point where nobody can shoot well with an '06-based round?

You've reached the point,where you are talking out your ss,about wares you've never even seen...let alone used and it is fhuqking fascinating,how much you wish to prove something sooooooooo VERY fhuqking obvious.

Folks who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,will ALWAYS be best served by asking questions,rather than trying to give "answers". Hint.

Multiple examples,of said wares,in this frame alone. Hint.



Just how fast do you push your Imaginary 168's,in your Imaginary 280AI and say sumptin' about COAL...but tread fhuqking lightly. HINT.

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Kimber 280AI Classic Stainless

162 ELDM
Nosler brass
Fed 210 match
RL26


3005 fps




Now, how fast is that 7-08 180?

More fun to shoot and cheaper to shoot, means more shooting, and that means better shooting. Plain and simple. Volume breeds familiarity with your DOPE, which never hurts one’s ability to hit what he aims at.

So, you sold your 7WSM?

Negative, but I can place a 108 ELD from my comp 6 Creed with greater precision at any given range than my 7WSM’s, unless the wind is really fickle. Critters are likely in just as much danger, if not more, from a 108 ELD as a 180 ELD, despite the displacement difference.

Besides, variety is the spice of life, and I ain’t in the business of selling guns for no reason

Agreed, and that's why I have a heavy barrel 6.5 Creed.

But the OP already has a 7-08 in house, and (I guess) he was looking for a little more and landed on the 280AI.

Variety IS the spice of life.

No argument there, I was just pointing out that more displacement doesn’t necessarily mean more deadly, when it comes to hunting.

2650fps is a literal breeze.

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Dangle a pic of the 280AI,because it WILL be fhuqking funny!

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