Home Forums Reloading Big Game Rifles 7mm-08, 150 Accubond Long Range Quickload question

I have Big Game, RL17, Hunter, and Varget to try in my Tikka 22.4" barrel.

What does Quickload say for these powders?

Thanks,


P

artridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler Accubond LR 58734 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 45.875 grain H2O = 2.979 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder : Alliant Reloder-17

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 81 36.00 2220 1642 28808 7821 92.1 1.518
-18.0 83 36.90 2277 1728 30752 8071 93.4 1.476
-16.0 85 37.80 2335 1816 32831 8309 94.6 1.435
-14.0 87 38.70 2392 1906 35059 8534 95.7 1.396
-12.0 89 39.60 2450 1999 37445 8745 96.6 1.357
-10.0 91 40.50 2508 2094 40005 8940 97.5 1.315
-08.0 93 41.40 2565 2191 42755 9119 98.2 1.275
-06.0 95 42.30 2622 2291 45709 9279 98.8 1.236
-04.0 97 43.20 2680 2391 48887 9420 99.3 1.198
-02.0 99 44.10 2736 2494 52309 9542 99.7 1.162 ! Near Maximum !
+00.0 101 45.00 2793 2598 55999 9642 99.9 1.127 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 103 45.90 2849 2703 59987 9720 100.0 1.093 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 105 46.80 2905 2810 64300 9781 100.0 1.061 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 108 47.70 2960 2918 68972 9837 100.0 1.029 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 110 48.60 3015 3028 74043 9889 100.0 0.999 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 112 49.50 3070 3138 79556 9937 100.0 0.969 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 101 45.00 2916 2832 68220 9194 100.0 1.042 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 101 45.00 2610 2269 45427 9640 95.5 1.238

Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler Accubond LR 58734 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 45.875 grain H2O = 2.979 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder : Ramshot Hunter

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 82 36.00 2104 1474 26439 7080 84.6 1.584
-18.0 84 36.90 2158 1551 28173 7337 86.0 1.543
-16.0 87 37.80 2213 1631 30024 7590 87.4 1.502
-14.0 89 38.70 2267 1712 32004 7838 88.7 1.462
-12.0 91 39.60 2323 1797 34122 8079 90.0 1.423
-10.0 93 40.50 2378 1883 36389 8314 91.2 1.385
-08.0 95 41.40 2434 1973 38817 8540 92.4 1.345
-06.0 97 42.30 2490 2064 41422 8757 93.5 1.305
-04.0 99 43.20 2546 2158 44216 8964 94.5 1.266
-02.0 101 44.10 2602 2254 47217 9160 95.4 1.228
+00.0 103 45.00 2658 2353 50446 9344 96.2 1.192
+02.0 105 45.90 2714 2454 53924 9515 97.0 1.157 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 107 46.80 2771 2557 57668 9672 97.7 1.123 ! Near Maximum !
+06.0 109 47.70 2827 2662 61724 9814 98.3 1.090 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 111 48.60 2883 2769 66106 9941 98.8 1.058 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 113 49.50 2940 2879 70851 10052 99.2 1.027 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 103 45.00 2803 2616 61247 9330 99.7 1.100 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 103 45.00 2470 2032 41065 8843 88.4 1.308

Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 150, Nosler Accubond LR 58734 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 45.875 grain H2O = 2.979 cm�
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 22.4 inch = 569.0 mm
Powder : Hodgdon VARGET

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel. Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi % ms

-20.0 88 36.00 2410 1935 41572 7738 96.6 1.320
-18.0 90 36.90 2465 2024 44412 7924 97.3 1.280
-16.0 92 37.80 2519 2114 47441 8099 98.0 1.242
-14.0 95 38.70 2574 2206 50672 8263 98.5 1.206
-12.0 97 39.60 2628 2300 54123 8415 99.0 1.171 ! Near Maximum !
-10.0 99 40.50 2681 2394 57809 8554 99.4 1.137 ! Near Maximum !
-08.0 101 41.40 2734 2490 61749 8680 99.7 1.105 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-06.0 103 42.30 2787 2588 65966 8791 99.9 1.073 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-04.0 106 43.20 2840 2686 70483 8888 100.0 1.043 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
-02.0 108 44.10 2892 2786 75327 8969 100.0 1.014 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+00.0 110 45.00 2944 2887 80528 9044 100.0 0.986 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+02.0 112 45.90 2995 2989 86120 9116 100.0 0.959 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+04.0 114 46.80 3047 3091 92142 9184 100.0 0.933 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+06.0 117 47.70 3098 3196 98639 9249 100.0 0.908 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 119 48.60 3148 3301 105660 9310 100.0 0.884 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 121 49.50 3199 3409 113265 9367 100.0 0.861 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by � 10% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 110 45.00 3026 3050 93868 8730 100.0 0.931 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10% relative to nominal value:
-Ba 110 45.00 2820 2649 67276 9292 98.5 1.061 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Alliant claims some pretty good velocities with RL19 and 2000mr as well.

I'm just now starting to play with 2000mr and RL17 in my 7-08.

Keep us posted on your results.

Curious how this worked out. I have a Sako A7 in 7mm-08 and have been wondering about the ABLR for my elk and deer needs

I have had trouble having any degree of accuracy in my 7-08 and 7x57 with the bullet. Not sure but think it is too long for the twist in my guns. Going to try it in the 7x57AI, maybe get lucky.

It turned out great!

I only had to change two things, the bullet and the powder. Other than that everything stayed the same.




We’ve killed elk and deer in the interim, great bullet performance.




P

ABLR didn’t group worth a damn.





P

Well that’s not encouraging ☹️ Pretty sure my Sako A7 is basically a Tikka. What to do...

I wish I had better news. I tried several powders, charge weights, and seating depths. I even tried holding my mouth different. No luck.

Do you have access to 150 ELDX bullets and Big Game powder? It’s been the bee’s knees for three Tikkas.





P

I have been trying to get something other than pattern from the 150 gr. ABLR in three 7x57 rifles and one .280 Remington. So far I'd have better luck urinating up a rope. The best any of the 7x57s have done is 3.5" and the .280 4.0". My last hope is playing with seating depth.
Paul B.

It's funny you had such different results with ablr vs eldx. They both shot nearly identical groups in my x-bolt with the same powder charge, which was good but not great. Between 1" and 1.25". I never used them on game.

Man that Pharmseller is getting some mileage out of them 08's and RBG.

Too much.

Four or five Tikkas and a Ruger American that went down the road. Seven or eight shooters. 120, 140, 150 grains, all BG and WLRM.

It’s the dangedest thing.





P

I am going to start working up loads for a new Sako Finnlight 7-08 with NAB and Big game I usually use IMR 4064 with great results anywhere from 42 to 44gr hope it works out. I love the Accubonds in one of my other 7-08's it has been a amazing bullet on deer no matter what angle or bone I hit they have never taken another step and it has been a bunch of them. Blackwidow

Max charge of BG with 140 AB is 47.5 grains. I use it with Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primers. 2850 fps and sub-MOA.

Work up.




P

I went up to 47 grains and got 2,890 out of a 22.5” barrel. Use Tula LRM primers, R-P brass, 140 AB and Big Game.

If I can get the E-tip to 2,900 with Big Game, that would be a wicked little elk load....

Pharmseller,
I remember seeing that you took a few animals this year with the 150 ELD-X load. How did terminal performance compare to your 140 NAB loads? Deer only, or elk, too? I guess I wouldn't have any hesitation about the 150 ELD-X on deer, or boiler room shots on elk, but am a bit skeptical on it performing as well as the 140 AB or PT on elk, particularly if bone is encountered or maximum penetration is needed. I guess I am wondering how much terminal performance do you feel is sacrificed for a better BC?

I have a box of 150 ABLR coming from Shooters Pro Shop. Hopefully I have better luck than you getting them to group. I just have a little better confidence in the ABLR holding together on bone than the ELD-X. Then again, I really don't need either with as good as the 140 NAB shoots, but what fun with that be?