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Be interesting too see what manufacturers begin chambering the 300 PRC..................How about a 7mm PRC there Hornady?
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Be interesting too see what manufacturers begin chambering the 300 PRC..................How about a 7mm PRC there Hornady? Based on the 6.5 PRC, please!!!
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Be interesting too see what manufacturers begin chambering the 300 PRC..................How about a 7mm PRC there Hornady? Based on the 6.5 PRC, please!!! ..................No Seattle. Not based on the 6.5 PRC. I was referring to a 300 PRC case necked down to a 7mm. Thus the 7mm PRC...
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Maybe Hornady will do a 7mm based on the 6.5 PRC case too.....
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Looks like a pretty decent cartridge for longrange shooting. For the average Joe, forget about rechambering your current rifle. The maximum OAL is 3.7" which is too long for a number of popular rifle types.
Guess I'll stick with my 300WM. I won't be shooting game past 600 anyway.
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7mm-300 PRC is nearly a 7LRM.
http://site-media.net/gunwerks/7LRMarticle(1).pdf
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2019 will see a slew of rifles chambered for the .300 PRC (30/375 Ruger). Is your real name Karnac - you know, the prognosticator that used to frequent the Johnny Carson Show? As I recall, the same was said about the 6.5PC. To date I have seen and personally held one rifle chambered in 6.5PRC - a Christensen Mesa Long Range Dealer told me it had been on order for 8 months. It's not as if they (6.5PRCs) are filling or falling of the shelves/racks. SHOT Show is a month away, and only time will tell who will step to the plate and announce an affordable, and available commercial rifle chambered in 300PRC that'll ship before mid-summer or early fall. JMHO
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I think they are trying to create a buzz that will match the 6.5 CM in terms of Hornady ammo sales, etc. What has my attention is that it will come out in the Bergara Premiere series rifles among others.....I am LUSTING for an HMR PRO in ... ā.30 caliber (never a .308)ā Well..., someone else with my sentiments. I should add that I like my 06 and 300 WM and Iām not looking for something else. Jerry
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I knew a guy named Karnac some years ago, but, I think he got deported (just kidding!).....Actually, I love my .300 Winchesters and have also had quite a few .300 Wildcats over the years...but, my money is saved and I have a couple of dealers on alert for the first Bergara HMR PRO in .300 PRC they get. I GOTTA HAVE IT! (Meaning, Bergara will be making them!)
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Meh,more hype. It won't do anything that the other .300 magnums won't do.
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I knew a guy named Karnac some years ago, but, I think he got deported (just kidding!).....Actually, I love my .300 Winchesters and have also had quite a few .300 Wildcats over the years...but, my money is saved and I have a couple of dealers on alert for the first Bergara HMR PRO in .300 PRC they get. I GOTTA HAVE IT! (Meaning, Bergara will be making them!)
My experience with Bergara leads me to believe that a 300PRV available and shipping in February (timeframe taken from another post) is all hype. My best guess is that there will possibly be one at SHOT, and a handful out there subsequently - in the hands of gun writers so they can drive the hype and 'demand.. FWIW, I saw a preview of the cover of the March 2019 Shooting Times magazine. It sports a large pic of the 300PRC.. Didn't get to read the article to see how/if/what it was tested/shot in, but my guess is it was doe in a test rifle at Hornady.
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While I can see snipers and long range enthusiasts being interested in the ..300PRC, I don't see it gaining wide use as a hunting cartridge. The 3.7" length requires a heavier, magnum length action, so rebarreling .30-06-length rifles won't allow max COL cartridges to fit in the magazine, negating much of it's design advantage. In a similar weight rifle I calculate a.308" 212g bullet at 2850fps will have about 10% more recoil than my .338WM with a 225g bullet A 2750fps - which is to say not very comfortable to shoot.
For my carry purposes, a heavier rifle is not an option I'd consider lightly, if at all, in spite of the recoil reduction it would provide. Never mind the scope needed to take advantage of extreme ranges would add even more weight. I suspect the same is true for many - the .300WM will do what they need at a weight and recoil level they find acceptable.
What I'd like to see is a 6.5 based on the .375 Ruger and designed to fit a .30-06 length action. It wouldn't replace my 6.5-06AI as a target rifle, but I would like one in a sporter-weight rifle for carry purposes.
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While I can see snipers and long range enthusiasts being interested in the ..300PRC, I don't see it gaining wide use as a hunting cartridge. The 3.7" length requires a heavier, magnum length action, so rebarreling .30-06-length rifles won't allow max COL cartridges to fit in the magazine, negating much of it's design advantage. In a similar weight rifle I calculate a.308" 212g bullet at 2850fps will have about 10% more recoil than my .338WM with a 225g bullet A 2750fps - which is to say not very comfortable to shoot. For my carry purposes, a heavier rifle is not an option I'd consider lightly, if at all, in spite of the recoil reduction it would provide. Never mind the scope needed to take advantage of extreme ranges would add even more weight. I suspect the same is true for many - the .300WM will do what they need at a weight and recoil level they find acceptable. What I'd like to see is a 6.5 based on the .375 Ruger and designed to fit a .30-06 length action. It wouldn't replace my 6.5-06AI as a target rifle, but I would like one in a sporter-weight rifle for carry purposes. The 300 PRC is a 2.580" case, and fits fine in a 700 long action, same as it's parent 375 Ruger case. No belt, and a .532" body, and can be built on a 30-06 action with appropriate bolt, and feeds fine as well. https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/300-PRC-Public-Introduction.pdf
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While I can see snipers and long range enthusiasts being interested in the ..300PRC, I don't see it gaining wide use as a hunting cartridge. The 3.7" length requires a heavier, magnum length action, so rebarreling .30-06-length rifles won't allow max COL cartridges to fit in the magazine, negating much of it's design advantage. In a similar weight rifle I calculate a.308" 212g bullet at 2850fps will have about 10% more recoil than my .338WM with a 225g bullet A 2750fps - which is to say not very comfortable to shoot. For my carry purposes, a heavier rifle is not an option I'd consider lightly, if at all, in spite of the recoil reduction it would provide. Never mind the scope needed to take advantage of extreme ranges would add even more weight. I suspect the same is true for many - the .300WM will do what they need at a weight and recoil level they find acceptable. What I'd like to see is a 6.5 based on the .375 Ruger and designed to fit a .30-06 length action. It wouldn't replace my 6.5-06AI as a target rifle, but I would like one in a sporter-weight rifle for carry purposes. The 300 PRC is a 2.580" case, and fits fine in a 700 long action, same as it's parent 375 Ruger case. No belt, and a .532" body, and can be built on a 30-06 action with appropriate bolt, and feeds fine as well. https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/300-PRC-Public-Introduction.pdfMAX COL for the .300PRC is 3.700" per SAAMI. That is about a quarter inch too long for a Ruger .30-06 mag and, I suspect, for a variety of other .30-06 mag lengths as well. Yes, you could use a shorter COL but you would lose part of the advantage of the .300PRC design advantage if using heavy (long) bullets.
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I think you need to do a bit more research on the .300PRC.......
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I did and I am not impressed.
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I did and I am not impressed. Well its no 460 Weatherby for sure!
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I did and I am not impressed. Well its no 460 Weatherby for sure! True.
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