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Is an adjustable gas block a reliable solution to overgassing or would you recommend changing the buffer weight only? Either way is fine except if you are going to use a silencer. Then the adjustable gas block is preferred. Yes, that's a consideration as well for me. Thanks.
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Well, I got my PSA pistol upper today, and completed the pistol build. I got out to test fire it, and put a 40 yard zero on the irons. Sun went down on me, and I lost light quick. JBM suggests a 40 yd zero should keep bullet path within about 2" of LOS out to about 230 yards with M855 at 2600 fps. I gotta say. it was a lot of fun to shoot. I was sitting leaning against the truck tire, Just getting some 40 yard 5-shot groups to get a zero. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/Ri3WK3E.jpg) Feel free to share your AR pistol stuff here. Gents, professing my ignorance, I have a dpms brand AR and want to do the conversion to what MM has here. You guys have covered well the sources to do that but what I need to know is what does it take to do this and remain “legal “ in the conversion from the existing 16” bbl to the 10.5” bbl ? DeFlave well advised that you cannot just simply cut the barrel down. Any and all guidance and advice would be very much appreciated to get this right and legal from the start. Thanks in advance, Gents. OT If it's a rifle, and was sold as a rifle originally, you cannot legally change it to a pistol configuration. You can file SBR paperwork and then shorten the barrel after receiving approval, but that's pretty much it. Or change the receiver for one not sold as a rifle. yes, it seems silly since the parts are functionally the same in every way, but that is what the almighty ATF has decreed.
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Thanks. I've got my eye on a Superlative Arms gas block. Personally I'd suggest something else, but some people disagree. I don't agree with the hype about the bleed off system Superlative uses. My preference is for Seekins adjustable gas blocks (the version that is ~$60 or so). Seekins also has a newer version that is field adjustable and looks like a good idea, but I haven't used one.
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Well, I got my PSA pistol upper today, and completed the pistol build. I got out to test fire it, and put a 40 yard zero on the irons. Sun went down on me, and I lost light quick. JBM suggests a 40 yd zero should keep bullet path within about 2" of LOS out to about 230 yards with M855 at 2600 fps. I gotta say. it was a lot of fun to shoot. I was sitting leaning against the truck tire, Just getting some 40 yard 5-shot groups to get a zero. Feel free to share your AR pistol stuff here. Gents, professing my ignorance, I have a dpms brand AR and want to do the conversion to what MM has here. You guys have covered well the sources to do that but what I need to know is what does it take to do this and remain “legal “ in the conversion from the existing 16” bbl to the 10.5” bbl ? DeFlave well advised that you cannot just simply cut the barrel down. Any and all guidance and advice would be very much appreciated to get this right and legal from the start. Thanks in advance, Gents. OT If it's a rifle, and was sold as a rifle originally, you cannot legally change it to a pistol configuration. You can file SBR paperwork and then shorten the barrel after receiving approval, but that's pretty much it. Or change the receiver for one not sold as a rifle. yes, it seems silly since the parts are functionally the same in every way, but that is what the almighty ATF has decreed. Much appreciate it. Thanks for the info.
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To keep it legal, don't build on a rifle receiver.
Use a pistol receiver (per 4473).
Or, use a virgin receiver transferred as 'other' on the 4473.
Use a pistol brace, not a stock.
There might also be state laws depending where you are.
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Thanks MM. my state laws are good (Louisiana). I did find a complete article on this online in the American Rifleman .
Much appreciate you guys.
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FWIW and you guys may already be all over this . CDNN has pistol uppers advertised for 199.99$. Fits for AR-15, 300BO, 556, 7.62x39. 10.5” bbl, pistol gas system, match grade precision upper, A2 birdcage flash suppressor. All NFA rules apply. 800/588-9500 Just FYI
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Thanks MM. my state laws are good (Louisiana). I did find a complete article on this online in the American Rifleman .
Much appreciate you guys. Buy a Saint. Much easier.
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Thanks MM. my state laws are good (Louisiana). I did find a complete article on this online in the American Rifleman .
Much appreciate you guys. Buy a Saint. Much easier. Have entertained that. Sweet looking rig, they are. Legal, too and with future rifle upgrades and back to pistol. What’s not to like.
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I see Bud's sells the Saint for $819.00. That's always a solid name product.
My kitchen table build cost $475,
upper with bcg/ch (PSA) - 219
lower w/trans fee (PSA) - 49
lower parts kit (Midway) - 49
SBA3 brace (Midway) - 129
buffer (Midway) - 20
castle nut (Midway) - 4
end plate (Midway) - 4
total - 475
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I see Bud's sells the Saint for $819.00. That's always a solid name product.
My kitchen table build cost $475,
upper with bcg/ch (PSA) - 219
lower w/trans fee (PSA) - 49
lower parts kit (Midway) - 49
SBA3 brace (Midway) - 129
buffer (Midway) - 20
castle nut (Midway) - 4
end plate (Midway) - 4
total - 475
7.5's, yeah. But, haven't seen the 10.5's for that price.
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No, I just took a quick search. I didn't even look at bbl length.
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7.5" work too.
That's a deal.
No brainer if I was buying right now.
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I see Bud's sells the Saint for $819.00. That's always a solid name product.
My kitchen table build cost $475,
upper with bcg/ch (PSA) - 219
lower w/trans fee (PSA) - 49
lower parts kit (Midway) - 49
SBA3 brace (Midway) - 129
buffer (Midway) - 20
castle nut (Midway) - 4
end plate (Midway) - 4
total - 475
7.5's, yeah. But, haven't seen the 10.5's for that price. 10.3" is $1,384.
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If a man was really going to use something in competition, hunting or self defense, would you still shop the cheapest?
Not slamming anyone's choices, just had a bad deal on a Faxon barrel bought on Black Friday and it made me start looking again at better quality.
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I do use mine for hunting and self defense.
Competition is different. That tends to kill everything.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I do use mine for hunting and self defense.
Competition is different. That tends to kill everything. For Iguanas’n chit. Grins
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I see Bud's sells the Saint for $819.00. That's always a solid name product.
My kitchen table build cost $475,
upper with bcg/ch (PSA) - 219
lower w/trans fee (PSA) - 49
lower parts kit (Midway) - 49
SBA3 brace (Midway) - 129
buffer (Midway) - 20
castle nut (Midway) - 4
end plate (Midway) - 4
total - 475
7.5's, yeah. But, haven't seen the 10.5's for that price. 10.3" is $1,384. That's what I mean. That's almost twice what I paid for any of my Colt M4's.
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so the DD Mk18 pistol is expensive, wonder how it would stand up?
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Crappy cell phone pic of a Pistol kit I put together last night. PSA complete upper and parts kit I put into a new lower. I did upgrade to a Geissele SSA-E trigger though. I had the carry handle laying around so decided to try that for now. I like it and think it'll probably stay on there. I like this little beast. It's seriously nose heavy, and the blade sucks, but I'm thinking it's going to be a whole lot of fun to shoot. It's probably going to make me go get a SBR stamp though. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/kgDjT3SV/AR-Pistol.jpg)
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