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I was on YouTube today... Steve Rinella was going on about his "pants system"... not much different than what I do... But after looking into what he was working with and how he was layering and the like... I added up the cost of what he had into his "pants system"... Ya... He has like $750.00 into just keeping his nuts dry...

As a tax paying hourly employee in the Midwest making less than $15.00/hour... there is no way I would spend that kind of money for a "Pants system" as he calls it.. I got to buy the freaking tag so I can go in the first place.

I have although... been searching for something better than my old Carhartt's for some time... My carhartts are tough. But they can get to be heavy... and god help you if they get wet. Blue jeans can be lighter... but the same deal if they get wet... finding some hunting pants that are going to work in all conditions is a tough deal... unless you want to drop $$$$ for some First Lite gear... or Sitka gear or the like....

After a long search for just the right pants, for the right price... I don't need them in camo... I think I got it....

Dickies makes a FLEX Regular Fit Straight Leg Tough Max Duck Jean cut pant that I really think is gonna work. It's like $28 bucks. I REALLY like them.

Can you think of a better option ? What are you guys wearing for pants that work for you out west when it is too freaking hot to stand in the sun and will work the next day when you can see snow falling ? What else should I be looking at for a dedicated hunting pants ?


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Fuuck that.... run wool..... #sitkafags


I've hunted alotta places, lots of conditions, one of the wettest places around, I run costco longings, and either double knee'd carhartts or wool britches.....


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Almost anything but cotton that'll kill you.

Take a look at these Cabela pants.

Wear silk-weight longjohns is it's cold.


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Originally Posted by mikieb
I was on YouTube today... Steve Rinella was going on about his "pants system"... not much different than what I do... But after looking into what he was working with and how he was layering and the like... I added up the cost of what he had into his "pants system"... Ya... He has like $750.00 into just keeping his nuts dry...

As a tax paying hourly employee in the Midwest making less than $15.00/hour... there is no way I would spend that kind of money for a "Pants system" as he calls it.. I got to buy the freaking tag so I can go in the first place.

I have although... been searching for something better than my old Carhartt's for some time... My carhartts are tough. But they can get to be heavy... and god help you if they get wet. Blue jeans can be lighter... but the same deal if they get wet... finding some hunting pants that are going to work in all conditions is a tough deal... unless you want to drop $$$$ for some First Lite gear... or Sitka gear or the like....

After a long search for just the right pants, for the right price... I don't need them in camo... I think I got it....

Dickies makes a FLEX Regular Fit Straight Leg Tough Max Duck Jean cut pant that I really think is gonna work. It's like $28 bucks. I REALLY like them.

Can you think of a better option ? What are you guys wearing for pants that work for you out west when it is too freaking hot to stand in the sun and will work the next day when you can see snow falling ? What else should I be looking at for a dedicated hunting pants ?

If you can get warm and dry in at night, then I don't think it matters much. Any decent undergarment and whatever pants are comfortable will work fine. Under those guidelines, I've killed lots of critters in blue jeans and cotton boxers. However, if you spend a week or two in a tent with no artificial heat source then I believe it makes a difference. Given those stipulations, I'm not spending $750 on a pants "system" but I'm not hunting in blue jeans either.


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I wear the same $50 Carhartt Double Fronts to hunt in as I wear to work. Mind you I've never been on an Arctic Expedition, they have done me very well in every situation I've encountered from Florida summer work to Mid Atlantic winters. No way in hell I'd pay $750 for any kind of "clothing system".....

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Rinella probably didn't spend any money on that chit. It's free if he uses his celebrity status to endorse it. That being said, I've purchased a lot of pretty nice hunting pants on Ebay. It'll be especially good after Christmas. Hunting seasons are done with and new gear has been received as Christmas gifts.

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I wear Brush Pants. But then, I hunt in the East where there is no shortage of jagger bushes.

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This year I’ve been wearing Kryptek’s Vellus, both the pants and jacket. I’m blown away. These two garments are a game changer. I layer underneath accordingly. Light weight, waterproof, wind proof, insulated, ultra quiet, odor controlled, and the jacket has pit zips.

I was tempted to try Kryptek’s heavier Aegis Extreme line for late season, but it’s a slightly different construction using Primaloft insulation compared to the Vellus’ Thinsulate Platinum XTS Insulation. The Aegis gives up the advantages of being odor controled and light weight for increased warmth.

I’ve opted to add layers under my slightly oversized Vellus pants and Jacket. It’s just coincidental that I’d ordered them sized this way. I’ll likely purchase a size down in each to wear in more moderate temps.


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Check out the local thrift stores and look for old wool dress pants. Some great bargains can be found. Even if they last only one year (believe me they last a lot longer) 7-10 dollars beats $750.00 by a mile.


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I wear 50/50 poly cotton BDU's from Propper. They cost about $30 in green, brown, and several camo patterns. I have several pairs of M1951 surplus wool pants that are iron tough and warm. The waist is cut for Abbot and Costello and it can be lowered to a more modern fit by an alteration shop if you want. The wool is surplus and was NEW is a plastic bag for $20.00.

A rain pant or mil. surp. wind pant to cover will add much warmth/dry. Also I wear Firstlit knee length wool long johns and over calf liner or wool dress socks as an under sock plus light wool over sock and that combo keeps my feet plenty warm.

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Originally Posted by 406_SBC
Originally Posted by mikieb
I was on YouTube today... Steve Rinella was going on about his "pants system"... not much different than what I do... But after looking into what he was working with and how he was layering and the like... I added up the cost of what he had into his "pants system"... Ya... He has like $750.00 into just keeping his nuts dry...

As a tax paying hourly employee in the Midwest making less than $15.00/hour... there is no way I would spend that kind of money for a "Pants system" as he calls it.. I got to buy the freaking tag so I can go in the first place.

I have although... been searching for something better than my old Carhartt's for some time... My carhartts are tough. But they can get to be heavy... and god help you if they get wet. Blue jeans can be lighter... but the same deal if they get wet... finding some hunting pants that are going to work in all conditions is a tough deal... unless you want to drop $$$$ for some First Lite gear... or Sitka gear or the like....

After a long search for just the right pants, for the right price... I don't need them in camo... I think I got it....

Dickies makes a FLEX Regular Fit Straight Leg Tough Max Duck Jean cut pant that I really think is gonna work. It's like $28 bucks. I REALLY like them.

Can you think of a better option ? What are you guys wearing for pants that work for you out west when it is too freaking hot to stand in the sun and will work the next day when you can see snow falling ? What else should I be looking at for a dedicated hunting pants ?

If you can get warm and dry in at night, then I don't think it matters much. Any decent undergarment and whatever pants are comfortable will work fine. Under those guidelines, I've killed lots of critters in blue jeans and cotton boxers. However, if you spend a week or two in a tent with no artificial heat source then I believe it makes a difference. Given those stipulations, I'm not spending $750 on a pants "system" but I'm not hunting in blue jeans either.


I'll echo what 406 says, some hunts it doesn't matter what you wear really, i.e. warm dry place every night. Some hunts what you are wearing may be a huge factor on whether you live or not if things go slightly wonky on you. I wear Kuiu attack pants 99% of the time big game hunting and vary how much merino wool I'm wearing underneath that. The other one percent is the same but with a Wild Things gear hard shell over the top. I spend plenty of money on hunting but I'm ok having expensive core clothing items that will help me stay alive if things go to hell. YMMV


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I’ve gone to Duluth dry on the fly pants. Wonderful in the summer, a merino wool base layer in the fall or winter. Cool in the summer heat, block the wind when it’s cold. Tough pants that also dry quickly.

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I worked outside climbing poles for 35 years in all weather conditions, I just wear brown Carhart pants that I got from work. this year I hunted about 40 days and those old Carhart`s work just fine.

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Yea, I agree cotton is a no go. Check out ebay or amazon and get some of the cheapo chinese softshell pants. They are softshell tough synthetic on the outside, polyester fleece on the inside. Water and wind resistant. And can be had for $30 or less if you look around. They are a little stretchy so they are comfortable to hike/climb in. I've hunted in them for the last 3 years and haven't had a pair rip or otherwise fail, and that includes a lot of hiking through thick blackberry brush which will destroy just about anything. FYI they usually come in "asian" sizing so look at the chart before you buy.

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Try a pair of Filson Tin chaps - I wore them for small game bustin thru wet brush, thorns, etc. they are tough and have a wax/oil finish that helps keep water out. they are a bit expensive but not $700.

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Coincidentally, I have been struggling to pick a hunting pant recently.
I have used lined carharts for the past half dozen years but was also looking for a better "system".
Picking between, Kryptek, Sitka, Firstlight, Kuiu ect. Is daunting.

What were the different parts of the Rinella system?

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Originally Posted by Judman
Fuuck that.... run wool..... #sitkafags


I've hunted alotta places, lots of conditions, one of the wettest places around, I run costco longings, and either double knee'd carhartts or wool britches.....



Kinda sucks when the first reply ends the thread... smile


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I prefer quick-dry synthetics or half synthetic over wool, or heaven forbid, cotton. But depending on the hunt, I might wear any of them.

Under the pants, a synthetic or silk long john if needed

Over the pants, rain gear for wind or moisture if needed. If really cold, synthetic insulation winter bibs or coveralls.

Might run $100 all told - maybe 200 max. Now go to work on the tops and over-clothes.

You guys need to save your money for those $1500 rifles topped with $1500 dollar scope, a $1500 spotting scope, and $1500 binocular. $100 Surefire flashlight, $400 knife, GPS unit, Sat phone, SPOT (or whatever current device), and of course, $800 pack to carry it in. An $80K rig to get there, etc.

Those fancy clothes can run into real money.

Damn, maybe I should start mugging hunters! smile

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