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(that's 29 caliber, but of course anyone who 'knows anything" knows only those modern shells with metric names are any good.)
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.243 / 6mm Perfect! The Best 
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I tend to prefer bullets from .224 through .458, except when, occasionally, using rimfires.
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The 6.5mm/.264 bullet is the best diameter for NA hunting. Other bullet diameters will work but if you seek perfection 6.5mm/.264 is the answer you seek. It's simply science.
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smokepole,
Just because your neighbor's brother-in-law's doctor lost a buck shot with the .29-06 AI doesn't prove anything.
Some cartridges in a certain caliber are far more effective than others, which is obviously true of the giant-killing 6.5 Creedmoor. Similarly, if your neighbor's brother-in-law's doctor had used the magical B-29 round, instead of some wannabe based on the tired old .30-06 case, the buck would have not only died right there, but the bullet would have flipped it on its back and performed the field dressing. Wouldn't a REALLY GOOD bullet have packaged it also. 
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Which bullet diameter carries the best terminal ballistics for North American Venison and Pork?
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.284
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.264
Other.... Yea, those. Some would add quarter bore to the list.
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Which bullet diameter carries the best terminal ballistics for North American Venison and Pork?
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Other.... Yea, those. Some would add quarter bore to the list. I’m fine with that, but does the 25-06 offer the best terminal ballistics in the 06 case?
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Some cartridges in a certain caliber are far more effective than others, which is obviously true of the giant-killing 6.5 Creedmoor. Similarly, if your neighbor's brother-in-law's doctor had used the magical B-29 round, instead of some wannabe based on the tired old .30-06 case, the buck would have not only died right there, but the bullet would have flipped it on its back and performed the field dressing. Several years ago I shot a small buck @ about 30 yards quartering away. At the shoot the deer did a 180 back flip and landed on its back, DRT. At the time I thought it odd, but now I know.... .30 out of a .308 case.
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Best bullet diameter I've got other than a round for the GAU-8 is the one on the right. .56 caliber, 900 grains. It's the plinking bullet for the big gun in next picture. The real bullet is 1,300 grains and I guarantee four things about it. You won't whine about the fact the gun weighs 47#, as I recall. You will likely need a rest unless you're Paul Bunyan. It will put critters down on the spot. The working charge is 250 grains of Lord Black. The little puny thing behind the penny is a 530 grain .45-70 bullet. It only works on buffalo. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/Jsn0jMQ.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://i.imgur.com/KFdm2bP.jpg)
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Best bullet diameter I've got other than a round for the GAU-8 is the one on the right. .56 caliber, 900 grains. It's the plinking bullet for the big gun in next picture. The real bullet is 1,300 grains and I guarantee four things about it. You won't whine about the fact the gun weighs 47#, as I recall. You will likely need a rest unless you're Paul Bunyan. It will put critters down on the spot. The working charge is 250 grains of Lord Black. The little puny thing behind the penny is a 530 grain .45-70 bullet. It only works on buffalo. I think that qualifies as a piece of artillery!
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Ok, just to make it easy let’s say all of the above bullet diameters loaded with the same type of hunting bullet Placed in a 30-06 case? All of the calibers driven close to max velocities, with the same on game shot placement.
Which bullet diameter wins and why? I'm thinking a 45 cal based on a straight 30-06 case would be the best guaranteed killer, given the parameters....using a bullet similar to the 530gr sample per Dan above.
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The last one that put meat in the freezer. LOL. I am going through the "new rifle" "new cartridge" issue right now. Seems there really is not that much difference. A matter of inches of drop, and wind drift. Bottom line the nut behind the trigger.
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.22 cal and 45 cal. Everything in-between is pointless. So are breasts without nipples.
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not in dds yard it is just a pop gun
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Which bullet diameter carries the best terminal ballistics for North American Venison and Pork?
.30
.284
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Other....
Not asking so much about chamberings, just bullet diameters.
In my experience the .284 if pushed fast enough kills stuff like a lightening bolt. It’s funny, I don’t even own a .284 in any chambering currently. What do you guys think?
Hmmm... My 30-06 will do most everything my 30-30 will do, but not the reverse. My .223 is perfectly capable of doing what my 30-06 does inside 100 yards, The range at which something in the high 90% of all deer are killed The last 6 years I have been killing a lot of deer. A lot of those deer were killed with arrows. A couple of those deer were down and dead where they stood, but most ran something like about 50 yards. Some did run further. That's more or less the results my 30-06 produces. Does that make my bow equal to my 30-06? I guess though that none of my rifles of bows will ever be as efficient as my son's .270 because 100% of the deer he has killed with it dropped where they stood.
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I'm more concerned with after impact diameter than before impact diameter.
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Ok, just to make it easy let’s say all of the above bullet diameters loaded with the same type of hunting bullet Placed in a 30-06 case? All of the calibers driven close to max velocities, with the same on game shot placement.
Which bullet diameter wins and why? All things being equal or optimum from the 0-6 cartridge powder & pressure capacity I would give all of them a gold star and a blue ribbon. They all will get the job done w room to spare.
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