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and you can't plink grouse on a furbearer license.....
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Happy New Year to you as well H22.. Guess I got my first taste of someone being a reall A@#hole to me on the fire.. Thanks for breaking me in.. But if I'm hunting elk or mule deer with a hunting rifle, I"m not really going to be able to "plink" a grouse... since I don't carry a 270 (had to get that part in to humor some others on here)
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I was born and raised in CO. The Kalifornicators and their leftist pals in the Front Range have completely ruined the state.
I turned my back on CO after seeing the poor hunt quality and watching the fee structure being abused year after year. These idiots on the Commission contracted with a Dallas firm to run the online non- resident license sales. For several years running now, the servers have crash on opening day of the application date and screwed several thousand folks out of the chance to get a license. Complaints with the wildlife folks fall on deaf ears, and you have zero recourse. On top of those insults, you are given the pleasant opportunity of paying $500 for a bull tag.
Piss on CO and their precious hunting licenses. I now hunt in a state with far better success ratios, fewer people, cheaper tags, and better hunting weather.
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I'm also a basketball referee, so I'm used to people being rude and obnoxious for no reason... As far as reading regulations, I guess I'm just used to PA where small game and fur license ARE 2 different tags.
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they are 2 different tags here, too. Hence my rude-azzed comment. But everybody has to chime in, whether they know what they're talking about, or not. Sally forth...
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I guess that does it for me. I have 20 PP but I won't pay the new fees this year. At 70, I probably shouldn't go anyway.
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Small game license can't be returned. Big game license must be returned at least 30 days before season and it will cost you 50% of the license or a max of $25
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I guess that does it for me. I have 20 PP but I won't pay the new fees this year. At 70, I probably shouldn't go anyway. It'd be a shame to waste 20 points, hate to see that. You could draw a tag that wouldn't be too hard physically to get on some bulls.
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bowing out over a $100......
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It's not a hundred bucks , it's the five hundred plus to draw a decent mule deer. More when they decide to raise it again.
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Just be up front and call it what it is...it’s an application fee. It’s dumb to make me buy a “small game licence” that I can’t or won’t use to make me feel like I’m getting something vs just paying a fee.😡
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I think a couple people have pointed out that the more licenses they sell, the more Pittman-Robertson funds they get. Those funds come from a federal excise tax and they're divided up among the states according to a formula that includes number of licenses sold. It may be an "applicarion fee" but there's no way they're gonna ask for it in that form or call it that.
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I was born and raised in CO. The Kalifornicators and their leftist pals in the Front Range have completely ruined the state.
I turned my back on CO after seeing the poor hunt quality and watching the fee structure being abused year after year. These idiots on the Commission contracted with a Dallas firm to run the online non- resident license sales. For several years running now, the servers have crash on opening day of the application date and screwed several thousand folks out of the chance to get a license. Complaints with the wildlife folks fall on deaf ears, and you have zero recourse. On top of those insults, you are given the pleasant opportunity of paying $500 for a bull tag.
Piss on CO and their precious hunting licenses. I now hunt in a state with far better success ratios, fewer people, cheaper tags, and better hunting weather. You moved from a "Leftist" state to a MORE Leftist state...mmm...mmm...mmm. They registering your bullets there, yet?
Don't ask me about my military service or heroic acts...most of it is untrue.
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I was born and raised in CO. The Kalifornicators and their leftist pals in the Front Range have completely ruined the state.
I turned my back on CO after seeing the poor hunt quality and watching the fee structure being abused year after year. These idiots on the Commission contracted with a Dallas firm to run the online non- resident license sales. For several years running now, the servers have crash on opening day of the application date and screwed several thousand folks out of the chance to get a license. Complaints with the wildlife folks fall on deaf ears, and you have zero recourse. On top of those insults, you are given the pleasant opportunity of paying $500 for a bull tag.
Piss on CO and their precious hunting licenses. I now hunt in a state with far better success ratios, fewer people, cheaper tags, and better hunting weather. Population of Washington is 7.2 million. Averaging 102 people per square mile. Colorado is 5.6 million. Averaging 52 per square mile. What is better hunting weather like? Just curious what that means.
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Where is Rodney King when you need him?
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New Mexico has followed suit. No refunds anymore for the game-license if unsuccessful. That's $65 for a non-resident. Without points I wonder if it will put a dent in the draw numbers or just force more people to compete for landowner license/access.
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I'm a CO resident who will be buying a "qualifying license" anyway, so I don't think this change will affect the way I do business... BUT, I am seriously curious to know how it can be legal for a Government to require the purchase of a unwanted/unneeded license, in order to purchase another? Have any of the other states, with similar requirements, ever been legally challenged on this?
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Hell they can double it for all I care, folks should hunt their own damn state.
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Itll never happen, but I wish NR's would just give the CO DOW the finger and go somewhere else this year. I don't have a problem paying a y reasonable amount for any tag or preference point, but that's completely garbage. If they wanted to raise the application fee then raise the damn application fee, but don't make hunters buy something completely unrelated. It's clearly an attempt to get more money out of people in a used car salesman way.
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