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#13432793 - 01/08/19 PRS  
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Shot HP for years...ben out of it now for years, but getting the bug to shoot again, thought I might try this. Some matches scheduled this summer in Wi. not to far from me.
Anyone done this type of match? Seems it could be fun. Whatcha shooting, and what are your thoughts? I got a RR AR gathering dust...would it work? Looks like most guys are shooting bolt guns.
Thanks

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#13437224 - 01/09/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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I too would be interested.

#13438281 - 01/10/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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Not much,zero, in the way of replys...maybe an exclusive club?
PRM...just in Va visiting by Norfolk....you got any chucks where you live?

#13438648 - 01/10/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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I much prefer HP to any bipod shooting.
That & PRS sounds very expensive.
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#13444417 - 01/12/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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I shot my first match last year. I plan to do 3 or 4 this year, just for fun.

I ran a Criterion LV contour 700 chambered in 6.5 creed. 24" barrel. No can or brake. I threw it in a Grayboe Terrain stock with DBM. Glass was a 10x swfa. This was basically a chunky hunting rifle and not ideal for the PRS game in terms of weight & recoil. I suppose it weighed 6-8 lbs less than most rigs I shot against(majority bolt guns). It also cost about $5,000 less.

After the second stage I was wondering WTF I got myself into. I was a little nerved up after the barricade kicked my ass but started to settle down and have fun after that. I shoot a lot but the challenges I encountered at this match definitely put me out of my comfort zone. I ended up in 28th place out of 42 shooters. I guess that's probably where I deserved to be. This was an "Open" class match so the majority of the shooters had significantly more match experience than I.

I processed the experience for a couple weeks and decided that I would go back for more. I'd say keep it simple and avoid buying every gadget out there. IMO you'll want a low recoiling rifle(1/2 moa capable) that accepts 10 rd mags, a small rear bag, a game changer bag, a bipod, and a scope that tracks reliably. The 10x SWFA did not handicap me and we shot out to 1200 yards. Most of the match was between 400 & 850 yards. Learn your dope, practice on a barricade, do lots of dry firing and I'm sure you'll do well and have fun. I had my dope figured out but had done nothing in preparation beyond that.

Good luck!


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#13445029 - 01/12/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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Thanks for the input...I don`t have a bolt gun with that mag. capacity, but do have an AR. Thought I might use that with 69 or 77 grners. I understand the shooting is more like what you could expect in the hunting field..think the practice would be good.
I`m 76, so just finishing would be a win.
Thanks...BTB where are you shooting the matches?

#13445752 - 01/12/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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I think there were a couple guys shooting AR 223's at the match I attended. Shoot what you've got. I'd gun a 69 tmk, 70 rdf, or 75 Hornady bthp in an AR platform. You'll definitely be down on horsepower at "long" range, but that shouldn't stop you from giving it a go.

I live in the upper Midwest and the matches I plan on attending are part of the Border War Rifle Series.

#13447377 - 01/13/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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An AR is going to be a pretty big handicap in a lot of ways. Wind, of course, is an issue, but a larger concern is that small, slow bullet makes spotting hits a lot harder on steel. The steel is usually so shot up that the only way the RO can call hits is sound, and if the plate move. Many times, a .223 just wont swing the plate. Not saying it can't be done, and definitely cant say it won't be fun....but it will be tough.

Do some poking around your area, chances are there is a state or regional lever club that shoots "PRS-Style" club matches that will be a lot less formal, and a good way to wet your feet and see if its something you like. If it is....you will be getting a bolt gun pretty soon.

#13448322 - 01/13/19 Re: PRS [Re: dakotagun]  
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Originally Posted by dakotagun
It also cost about $5,000 less.

LOL! Yeah, that's a barrier to entry.


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#13448491 - 01/13/19 Re: PRS [Re: liliysdad]  
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Originally Posted by liliysdad
An AR is going to be a pretty big handicap in a lot of ways. Wind, of course, is an issue, but a larger concern is that small, slow bullet makes spotting hits a lot harder on steel. The steel is usually so shot up that the only way the RO can call hits is sound, and if the plate move. Many times, a .223 just wont swing the plate. Not saying it can't be done, and definitely cant say it won't be fun....but it will be tough.



This may or may not be an issue. Top competitors are migrating toward 6mm from 6.5 to help reduce recoil since a lot of matches have sensors to detect hits. You don't necessarily have to "spot" them anymore.

Bravo

#13448495 - 01/13/19 Re: PRS [Re: Tyrone]  
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Originally Posted by Tyrone
Originally Posted by dakotagun
It also cost about $5,000 less.

LOL! Yeah, that's a barrier to entry.


A few guys were chuckling at me when got to some of the last stages. All in good fun of course. There was no "free recoiling" my setup, that is for sure!

I can honestly say that the other shooters were helpful and genuinely nice folks.

#13448651 - 01/13/19 Re: PRS [Re: tarheelpwr]  
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Originally Posted by tarheelpwr
Originally Posted by liliysdad
An AR is going to be a pretty big handicap in a lot of ways. Wind, of course, is an issue, but a larger concern is that small, slow bullet makes spotting hits a lot harder on steel. The steel is usually so shot up that the only way the RO can call hits is sound, and if the plate move. Many times, a .223 just wont swing the plate. Not saying it can't be done, and definitely cant say it won't be fun....but it will be tough.



This may or may not be an issue. Top competitors are migrating toward 6mm from 6.5 to help reduce recoil since a lot of matches have sensors to detect hits. You don't necessarily have to "spot" them anymore.



Very few of the club level matches have target sensor setups, at least around here. 6mm has been a thing for a while, and a 105 or 115 at 3000fps will swing a plate a whole, whole bunch more than a 70gr .224. there are several guys playing with the 22x47 and 22 Creedmoor shooting 90+ bullets at 3000ish, and even they are having some issue with spotting shots.


But yes..if that's all you've got, I'd give it a shot. Its gonna be brutal just because it's not the tool for the job. It will, at least, be a learning experience.

#13449348 - 01/13/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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Yea, there are some matches in Cascade, Wi. this summer. Wouldn`t be too bad a drive..quess they can shoot to 1k, a push for the .223. I was thinking maybe a conversion to the Velkrye would work. New upper and BCG, and I think mags. Quess I could always try a match before spending some bucks.

#13449940 - 01/13/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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I think you'd have a lot of fun with nothing more than a Ruger Predator in 6 or 6.5 and an SWFA 10x.....

#13450510 - 01/14/19 Re: PRS [Re: liliysdad]  
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I got the SWFA..just need the rifle! Will look into it.

#13450551 - 01/14/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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I am not at all saying that the Ruger will be truly competitive as it is....but it would sure be fun on a shoestring budget.

AICS pattern mags, smooth action, etc....

#13454633 - 01/15/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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Did some looking last nite..how about a Grendel? Could get an upper for modest cost, and some mags. Would it do 1k tho? Any experience?

#13456280 - 01/15/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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It would be better, for sure, than a .223...but its till pretty pokey. The AR platform is so limiting....but yeah, it would be an improvement.

You can pick up a Ruger Predator in 6mm Creedmoor for $425. I dont think you can get into a Grendel barrel, bolt, magazines, and match grade ammo for that.

#13456470 - 01/15/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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I agree. I'd run a Ruger American 6mm creedmoor before an AR platform.

I'd rather spin a Criterion barrel on a 700 action than doing either.

#13456625 - 01/15/19 Re: PRS [Re: dakotagun]  
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Originally Posted by dakotagun
I agree. I'd run a Ruger American 6mm creedmoor before an AR platform.

I'd rather spin a Criterion barrel on a 700 action than doing either.




All day, every day....but I was trying to be as cheap as possible.

#13457988 - 01/16/19 Re: PRS [Re: CGPAUL]  
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You guys got me thinking....yesterday I took my MK 10 308 out to the farm...can shoot to 6, but shot at 450 and 5. Wtih handloads of 168 hornady match bullets, no problems hiting my 10x10 steel target, shooting prone/bipod out the back of my wood trailer...this load shots a bit under 1 inch at 100. I also have my 7x57 on a 98. Got some 162 ELD-M`s loaded. Gonna shoot for accuracy and over the chrony. If I can get 2750 out of them, and accurcy, the load stays SS to over 1200 yrds.
I know I`ve got limited mag capacity with both, and more recoil, but would either be worth trying?
Again, would like to try these matches...don`t expect to be National Champ by August..

Thanks for all the input.

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