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Heck, the 30-06 kicks too hard for me!

I think it was 1984 when I got my first 300 Win. Mag. I was 13 years old. I remember steadying myself for the very first shot and expecting a tremendous jolt; afterall, everyone said that the 300 kicks real hard. I was surprised to find that the rifle didn't kick that bad and I still don't understand why people consider it a heavy-recoiling cartridge. Anyway, count me as one who really likes it.

As far as being the standard. Hmm, the 30/06 still wears the crown in these parts.

Landrum

The point was made by several here that a 30/06 is hard to trade off or sell. I do a fair bit of gun show buying and selling with the occasional swap thrown in. While it si a great cartridge I HATE getting one on my table as I will usually have to pack it around to a lot of shows before it sells unless I practically give it away. Maybe most who want one have one? 300 MAgs of various monikers sell much more readily for what that is worth.

Disagree. I only know one guy who owns one. It is his favorite deer rifle, but he is still the only one.

Are you kidding me? Your going to obsess on a seating depth recommendations?
My current 300 winny has a 3.9" wyatts box. My previous 300 winny I installed a 300 Weatherby follower and mag box and seated bullets further out than SAMMI spec as well.
Now, to beat you to the punch. I know your going to bring head spacing on the belt up. If you want your Winny to head space on the shoulder run the cases through a 8mm rem mag FL die, then neck them back down just enough that the bolt closes. Fireform and you have cases that space on the shoulder.

Hey Savage, just so you know, I seat 180 gr. Nosler Partition Spitzers to an OAL of 3.410", the 180 gr. Nosler Partition Protected Point to and OAL of 3.350", and the 180 gr. Hornady Interlock to an OAL of 3.360" in my #1 custom Model 70 300 Win. Mag. Some 2,000 rounds and over 70 big game animals in the salt with that one rifle since 2001, and I've yet to see any evidence of bullet setback, and no apparent problems that I can detect as far as that horrific, awful belt is concerned.

Come to think of it, I've never experienced any problems in reloading, shooting, or hunting with any of the 300 Win. Mag. rifles I've owned over lo these many years (and I've owned a bunch of 'em), in spite of your little ongoing digs against this cartridge. I must be doing somehting wrong I guess, huh?????

Oh and, just so you know, the 300 WSM that you're so hot on has a neck length that's exactly .0339" longer than the neck of the 300 Win. Mag. which you seem to hate so very much. NOW, Bright Boy, if you think that .0339" difference in neck length is some big, monumental deal, I suggest that you spend the rest of your life doing something REALLY useful and figure out, for once and for all, how many angels really CAN dance on the head of a pin.

Or better yet, restrict your comment so something that you have some actual, honest experience with, because clearly the 300 Win. Mag. isn't one of them.

Fortunately, we live in a world in which ignorance, inexperience, and idle speculation cannot rule..........at least not for long!

AD

.300 Win mag is popular here in Alaska. But so are .338 and .300WSM/.325WSM

Youper and I live in the exact same town and in my group of friends alone there are two 7mm ultras, a 300 ultra, two win mags and 3 weatherby mags.

Nope: Personaly, I like the '06. It's good gold standard to go by.
BT

I forgot to add one 300 wsm as well. The black sheep of the bunch,lol.

Did you ever have a pre 64 M70 in 300 WM? If you did what was the magazine box length?

In the past I read that you used the Protected Point Partition? Is that true?

The 300 WM's neck length would not be such a problem with a long box. Did you read the Nosler caution? The WSM's don't have necks that are all that long but the mag. boxes are.

Allen,

If we all had your gunsmith our headspace would be optimum and the magazine box and bolt throws would be just right. Such is not the case with many production rifles and thus the cautions in Nosler #4 and #5 for the 300 WM.

Neck length like headpsace is simply not a issue. But, like I said before if it really ticks you off throw a 300 weatherby follower and box in your model 70 or get a Wyatts mag box. Headpsacing on the shoulder can be achieved by using the procedure I described earlier.

This brings up an interesting point and I think STW is on to something here.I've been to a lot of central Canada deer camps the las few years and without a doubt,amongst TRAVELING HUNTERS the two most commonly encountered calibers are the 300 Win Mag and the 7mm RemMag.Ironically,and contrary to what sales figures and popularity charts say,I DO NOT see a lot of 30/06's or 270's.The general attitude amongst some of the guides is that the 270 is "too small" for their "big deer"(!) and the 30/06 does not shoot flat enough. On many occaisions, I have had the only 270 in camp.These same guides felt that something with even more horsepower than the 300 WM is even better.See the same thing in mule deer and elk camps. There is no doubt that the 300 WM is a very popular cartridge among guys that travel to hunt,although my view is that,in the hands of many hunters I see lugging one around, its' advantages are more imagined than real...

I can sympathize with the traveling hunter taking a .300 along. If I have a couple grand tied up in a big hunt and I have 2 or 3 rifles I like and am comfortable shooting, I am taking the baddest of the bunch. Why not?

One thing about the 300 WIN from Africa to Alberta Wally World to the small gas station a guy can usually find a box of ammo.Also the same for 30-06 it's everywhere.

I've tried to find 300 Roy ammo in small towns in northern B.C and it a tough search.A fellow I guided came to camp with one bag short.Of course it was his 300 WBY ammo.If he was shooting a 300 Win mag their was 5 in camp I believe all problems would of been solved.

What I meant as new standard was really just a tribute to how popular this belted magnum is.

STW: Point is well taken; I agree,it's very popular.

JPro: You should,of course,take what you're comfortable with and shoot well.

Don't know if the 300winnie is the new standard or not.

I do think that with so much internet chat about "bigger and better" everything, the '06 is seen as just not enough by lots of folks. Much the same way that the lowly .270 tain't enough to kill elk anymore....

Just the same....I shoot the winnie. Never owned an '06, but not because it isn't enough.

Disagree

I see more of everything these days.

Straw poll around here:
2 - 270
1 - 280
1 - 284
1 - 7mm
1 - 303
2 - 300wsm
2 - 300wm
1 - 300 savage
2 - 300 Weatherby
1 - 308
3 - 3006
2 - 338
1 - 375

If'n it ain't a big bear, my 708 with a tsx will kill it. Have had many 300's and now own one. Don't like the big bang anymore. Don't like the recoil and loudness of the wsm's either. Seems to me the "regular" cartridges kill just as dead. Think about it, there are really only a few common bullets in use, 277, 284, 308. There are a few inbetween choices, but these are the most popular. Only difference is the size of the brass cylinders holding the powder. Like was earlier said, at some point in flight, every 300 becomes a lesser round.