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My sister in law and her husband were over. They've been married 30 years. We are talking about that when she rears up and says, " I don't know if there will be any more! I caught him looking at porn on the computer. That's like cheating!"

So we go one talking for a few minutes and I said, " I don't mean to pry, but how long has it been since you and Butch had sex?" Butch spouts out "Nine years!" Then I said to Linda, " Linda, if that is true then it seems to me that you broke the marriage covenant nine years ago and he is just reacting to it."

She stormed off to the kitchen and my wife followed. I could hear some excited talk, then she said, " Butch, it's time to go." So butch gets up and shakes my hand to leave, Linda didn't even look at me.

Diana comes in a few minutes later a bit mad at me, " You didn't have to say that to her!" she says. I simply replied, " Just telling the truth sweetheart."


you did the absolute right thing.

I am a pastor. If that conversation had went down in a counseling session, I would have told her more or less the same thing.

In fact, I have said that same thing from the pulpit in a sermon on marital fidelity.
The Bible would even say that she has been in sin for the 9 years that she has refused sex with her husband.



So would you say that denial of sexual concourse without cause, especially to exert power, is as much a breaking of the marital covenant as adultery?

Does the fact that she sets up conditions that tempt him to sin make her partly responsible for that sin?

Is this breach of the covenant consistent with sexual immorality, to be cause for Biblical allowed divorce?


By the way, I applaud you for bringing this scriptural truth to light in open sermons. Most pastors leap over or overly soften such things to avoid offending.


I would say that willfully (non-medical reasons) depriving one's spouse of sex would be grounds for divorce. It is a form of abandonment. It is desertion of a sort.

The sexual infidelity is still adultery, but the deprivation of sex makes the partner culpable of that adultery. IOW, an accomplice. That partner is guilty before God also.

I cannot say that refusal of sex is on the same level as sexual immorality, but I do believe it is grounds for divorce.

My feeling is that if one's spouse is refusing sex, then seek marital counseling. If she/he will not resume sexual relations, then file for divorce with cause (not a no-fault divorce). Then find a new mate. this order.


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Originally Posted by bludog
There could be a physical reason - look up dry vagina - happens around that age. Sex becomes excruciating for the woman.

there are all sorts of lubes...... KY, coconut oil, Crisco, etc.



(just kidding about the Crisco)

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