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Originally Posted by Harry M
Kansas is all that. Didn't you just have a House Rep jump from Republican to Democrat?
Wash the sand out of your mangina and try again.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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Kansas is all that. Didn't you just have a House Rep jump from Republican to Democrat?
lol What kind of gun laws have y'all got in Mass? What is your state's ranking?

I'm agreeing with your position on Kansas.


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My bottom line is, laws shouldn't be written by the ignorant. Gun control advocates, almost to a man, woman, trans or whatever, tend to utterly lack any kind of useful knowledge of, or experience with, firearms.
Thing is, we're getting to the point where VOTERS, and therefore the POLITICIANS, don't have a clue about ANYTHING.


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The government was denied the power to legislate the right to keep and bear arms in its founding document. It's just that simple. EVERY law written which infringes on this right in any way makes the right simply a government-granted privilege. I consider this a treason, and those involved in writing or enforcing these laws, from Congress to the POTUS to SCOTUS to LEO's traitors. ALL OF THEM.

Rights are absolute. They do not come from government, and a just government has no power to legislate them. What we have now is an unjust (tyrannical) government that needs to be dismantled by force by principled men and women.


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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
The government was denied the power to legislate the right to keep and bear arms in its founding document. It's just that simple. EVERY law written which infringes on this right in any way makes the right simply a government-granted privilege. I consider this a treason, and those involved in writing or enforcing these laws, from Congress to the POTUS to SCOTUS to LEO's traitors. ALL OF THEM.

Rights are absolute. They do not come from government, and a just government has no power to legislate them. What we have now is an unjust (tyrannical) government that needs to be dismantled by force by principled men and women.
And...you are absolutely correct.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
The government was denied the power to legislate the right to keep and bear arms in its founding document. It's just that simple. EVERY law written which infringes on this right in any way makes the right simply a government-granted privilege. I consider this a treason, and those involved in writing or enforcing these laws, from Congress to the POTUS to SCOTUS to LEO's traitors. ALL OF THEM.

Rights are absolute. They do not come from government, and a just government has no power to legislate them. What we have now is an unjust (tyrannical) government that needs to be dismantled by force by principled men and women.
And...you are absolutely correct.

Great thread, Ethan. I missed it the first time around and wanted my view on the record, so to speak. I do not stand with traitors. If I have the opportunity, I will seek to hold them accountable. We don't need any system to do this. It seems that a non-violent solution becomes less likely as time moves on, though, which is tragic.


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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
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Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
The government was denied the power to legislate the right to keep and bear arms in its founding document. It's just that simple. EVERY law written which infringes on this right in any way makes the right simply a government-granted privilege. I consider this a treason, and those involved in writing or enforcing these laws, from Congress to the POTUS to SCOTUS to LEO's traitors. ALL OF THEM.

Rights are absolute. They do not come from government, and a just government has no power to legislate them. What we have now is an unjust (tyrannical) government that needs to be dismantled by force by principled men and women.
And...you are absolutely correct.

Great thread, Ethan. I missed it the first time around and wanted my view on the record, so to speak. I do not stand with traitors. If I have the opportunity, I will seek to hold them accountable. We don't need any system to do this. It seems that a non-violent solution becomes less likely as time moves on, though, which is tragic.
Thank you and thank you for keeping the faith.

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Ethan, I just read your writeup and agree 1000%. Thank you soooo much..

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Disagree EE, felons equal no guns, time served or not. Choices and consequences.

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It seems, judging from recent events, that our rights are more at risk when the Repubs have the WH and half of Congress. The Antis didn’t accomplish as much when the Dems had the whole deal.

1. Giving BATFE the authority to outlaw gun parts.

2. Proposing the taking of guns from individuals with no immediate recourse to stop it.


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Ethan, I just read your writeup and agree 1000%. Thank you soooo much..
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Originally Posted by Esox357
Disagree EE, felons equal no guns, time served or not. Choices and consequences.

Who cares whether you disagree? Your government does not have the power to take guns away from people it chooses to for arbitrary reasons. Guns are a right. Do you know what a right is?

The government has made itself the victim of every crime committed and given itself sole standing in criminal court. Actual victims can only testify. They cannot receive reparation. The government continues to make up new statutes of which it is the victim if said statute is broken. Court used to be about actual victims with actual standing. The law used to be about actual harm, actual damage, actual redress.

So which rights do you think the government should be able to deny at will?


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Although I would love to see nation wide carry..and a permit that was respected like a drivers license..but I also respect the states right which is a foundation of our country...so I'm torn...if we give up state rights we are all just subjects of a centeral government ..

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Originally Posted by rainierrifleco
Although I would love to see nation wide carry..and a permit that was respected like a drivers license..but I also respect the states right which is a foundation of our country...so I'm torn...if we give up state rights we are all just subjects of a centeral government ..

A permit shouldn't be needed and states shouldn't be able to regulate a Constitutional right

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When you are convicted of a fellony you loose your rights...I knew a guy who was convicted of a fellony and had served his time...when he got out he had no gun rights..he was working on getting them back...he had to prove to a judge he could be a productive member of society...so as I remember he had to hold a job for 5 years and have no incidents with the law...I think he eventually got them back but I'm not sure...I know he did a lot of hunting..

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Ethan, I agree.

"Shall not be infringed" is self explanatory.


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Originally Posted by 700LH
[quote=rainierrifleco]Although I would love to see nation wide carry..and a permit that was respected like a drivers license..but I also respect the states right which is a foundation of our country...so I'm torn...if we give up state rights we are all just subjects of a centeral government ..

A permit shouldn't be needed and states shouldn't be able to regulate a Constitutional right[/quote


Gota say you are 100% right on that...

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