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Need someone to run some Quickload data for me.
7mm Dakota, 26" bbl, 65k psi max
168 ABLR
150 ScenarL
Any pet load info would be great.
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hicountry,
I ran a 24" Dakota for a while, Lilja #3.
PM me, and when I get a minute to access my notes I'll give you a bunch of data with 150-180 grain bullets.
I'm in the process of building another.
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I've got a decent load with 7828 and the 150 ScenarL..
About .8 @ 3200
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Here is a load that I use in the 7mm Dakota.
140 grain Trophy Bonded Tip,H-4831 SC 74.0 grains,Federal 210 Match primers.
From the 26" barrel it is averaging 3364 fps.
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Three more.
160 grain Nosler Partiton,73.0 grains IMR 7828,CCI 250 Mag primer. No velocity,but IIRC it was 3170 +/- fps.
160 grain Trophy Bonded the old style,70.5 grains IMR 7828,CCI 250 Mag primer. No velocity either,but probably around 3100 fps.
150 grain Winchester Power Point,81.0 grains Ramshot Magnum,CCI 250 Mag primer,3266 fps average.
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I was getting 3000fps with a 160ab, over 71.5 7828.
Accuracy was .5" with the factory wood stock. I then put it in a fiberglass, and the groups opened to over 1".
Maybe I need to go up higher.
Nyrifleman was kind enough to share some of his loads.
He had good results with RL25.
Thanks again guys for the info.....
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PS...still wouldn't mind Quickload on those 2 bullets from my original post
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I was getting 3000fps with a 160ab, over 71.5 7828.
Accuracy was .5" with the factory wood stock. I then put it in a fiberglass, and the groups opened to over 1".
Maybe I need to go up higher.
Nyrifleman was kind enough to share some of his loads.
He had good results with RL25.
Thanks again guys for the info..... You can get that with a 7 Rem Mag. Keep adding powder until you hit 3200. 3250 is doable, but pushing the envelope. 3200 is easily done in the Dakota. You may also want to do a search for BobinNH old posts. He had a Dakota for a while, and his Mashburn loads will work in the Dakota as well as case capacities are virtually identical. BTW, I"m getting ready to send a 7mm Rem Mag M-70 Classic Stainless Featherweight off to Gene Simillion to become my new 7mm Dakota. Gene is going to open the mag box a bit, and custom throat the barrel. I'm thinking a Pac-Nor. I plan on loading the 160 Accubond and Partition to the base of the neck.
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I used 7mm Wby load data. Start low and work up until it gets to the velocity,for instance a 140 grain at 3400 fps. It also helps if you have a chronograph.
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Thanks guys.
Yes, I use a Chrono for load development
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The more information you provided, the better.
Cartridge:
Cartridge over all length:
Bullet touching/jammed into lands at C.O.A.L. (Y/N):
Bullet:
Measured bullet length:
Powder type & charge weight:
Case length:
Case water capacity (measured level to case mouth):
Barrel length:
Barrel twist rate:
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7mm Dakota
3.330 ..... jump to lands
168vld Hunter
168 ABLR
180 VLD Hunter
25" bbl
1 in 9,5 twist
65k psi max
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QuickLOADs database of bullets often does not have bullet lengths (or case capacities) that jive with real world components. Enough to change the numbers quite a bit. I'd recommend measuring all three bullets for nominal length and measuring your cases for H20 capacity. Otherwise, any output I give you won't necessarily be worth much.
Also, are you looking for data for a particular powder or the whole gamut of powders?
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Gamut
For now, just use what's in the database. Just looking for a point to work up to. I use a Chrono for load development. I'm looking for velocities per powder type and knowing where the max velocities are.
I'll stop adding powder long before listed max if the velocities are there.
Thanks
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I have set the max pressure to 63kpsi. That's just how I roll. Cartridge : 7 mm Dakota
Bullet : .284, 168, Nosler Accubond LR 58623 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 79.321 grain H2O = 5.150 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
94 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Hodgdon Retumbo 107.5 79.0 5.12 3151 100.0 63000 12967 1.254
Vihtavuori N560 95.1 71.1 4.61 3120 99.9 63000 13346 1.263
Accurate MAGPRO 95.4 74.2 4.81 3116 99.5 63000 13553 1.271
Alliant Reloder-26 92.0 72.3 4.68 3109 100.0 63000 12573 1.283
IMR 7828 99.4 70.7 4.58 3109 100.0 63000 12890 1.253
IMR 7828 SSC 94.1 70.7 4.58 3109 100.0 63000 12890 1.253
Norma MRP 93.2 71.1 4.61 3105 100.0 63000 12753 1.272
Hodgdon H1000 104.3 75.4 4.89 3099 100.0 63000 12585 1.247
Alliant Reloder-25 100.6 73.2 4.74 3098 100.0 63000 12277 1.265
Alliant Reloder-22 95.4 70.5 4.57 3088 100.0 63000 12674 1.269
Winchester WXR 98.0 70.9 4.59 3087 100.0 63000 12702 1.269
Ramshot Magnum 95.3 75.9 4.92 3065 100.0 63000 12082 1.270
Alliant Reloder-19 92.9 67.9 4.40 3050 100.0 63000 12139 1.262
Hodgdon H4831 98.0 69.7 4.51 3038 99.8 63000 12194 1.259
Hodgdon H4831 SC 94.2 69.7 4.51 3038 99.8 63000 12194 1.259
Hodgdon H414 83.7 64.7 4.19 3033 100.0 63000 11678 1.269
Winchester 760 83.7 64.7 4.19 3033 100.0 63000 11678 1.269
Norma 204 88.3 66.7 4.32 3031 100.0 63000 11875 1.261
Ramshot Hunter 88.5 66.9 4.33 3029 100.0 63000 11622 1.270
Alliant Reloder-17 83.7 64.2 4.16 3026 100.0 63000 11295 1.272
Alliant Reloder-23 97.4 69.7 4.52 3025 100.0 63000 11379 1.283
Alliant Reloder-16 89.6 63.8 4.14 3012 100.0 63000 11149 1.279
IMR 4955 Enduron 95.7 68.1 4.41 3006 99.8 63000 11835 1.258
Winchester Supreme 780 91.8 70.8 4.59 3005 100.0 63000 11578 1.270
Vihtavuori N550 85.7 64.0 4.15 3002 100.0 63000 11283 1.279
Norma URP 88.1 63.7 4.13 3000 100.0 63000 11142 1.277
Vihtavuori N165 98.0 70.9 4.59 2995 100.0 63000 11301 1.275
Vihtavuori N160 98.4 69.0 4.47 2993 99.9 63000 11503 1.264
Accurate 4350 87.1 63.7 4.13 2993 100.0 63000 11078 1.296
Hodgdon H4350 90.9 65.0 4.21 2988 100.0 63000 11170 1.263
IMR 4350 89.2 64.9 4.21 2987 100.0 63000 11142 1.263
Accurate 3100 95.7 69.9 4.53 2983 100.0 63000 11141 1.302
Lovex S071 101.2 69.9 4.53 2983 100.0 63000 11141 1.302
Lovex S070 88.3 63.9 4.14 2982 100.0 63000 11137 1.279
IMR 4831 92.4 64.7 4.19 2980 100.0 63000 10898 1.286
IMR 4451 Enduron 85.7 61.9 4.01 2972 100.0 63000 10963 1.257
IMR 4007 SSC 84.0 62.3 4.04 2971 100.0 63000 11036 1.269
IMR 7977 Enduron 100.3 72.6 4.70 2968 95.8 63000 11846 1.259
Hodgdon H380 81.8 61.2 3.96 2967 100.0 63000 10803 1.279
Alliant Reloder-15 80.5 58.9 3.81 2963 100.0 63000 10652 1.275
Norma 203B 80.9 59.1 3.83 2956 100.0 63000 10570 1.278
Lovex S065 87.5 62.6 4.06 2955 100.0 63000 10726 1.278
IMR 4166 Enduron 85.2 59.7 3.87 2950 100.0 63000 10640 1.258
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 90.4 64.0 4.14 2948 100.0 63000 10303 1.281
IMR 4320 82.5 59.3 3.84 2945 100.0 63000 10313 1.264
Hodgdon VARGET 83.7 59.2 3.83 2938 100.0 63000 10359 1.263
Norma 203 old 81.8 60.4 3.92 2937 100.0 63000 10392 1.295
Accurate 2700 84.3 64.3 4.17 2928 100.0 63000 10467 1.272
IMR 4064 84.0 58.0 3.76 2927 100.0 63000 10153 1.268
Lovex S062 81.6 58.1 3.76 2908 100.0 63000 9981 1.285 Cartridge : 7 mm Dakota
Bullet : .284, 150, Lapua ScenarL GB553 7400
Useable Case Capaci: 80.908 grain H2O = 5.253 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.330 inch = 84.58 mm
Barrel Length : 26.0 inch = 660.4 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 63000 psi, or 434 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 108 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
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and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
88 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
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Vihtavuori N560 97.2 74.0 4.80 3283 99.6 63000 13673 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-26 94.1 75.4 4.89 3282 100.0 63000 12932 1.220 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 97.4 77.2 5.01 3275 98.9 63000 13821 1.210 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 95.3 74.2 4.81 3274 100.0 63000 13118 1.211 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 101.6 73.6 4.77 3274 99.8 63000 13235 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 96.1 73.6 4.77 3274 99.8 63000 13235 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-25 102.9 76.3 4.95 3270 100.0 63000 12614 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Retumbo 108.0 81.0 5.25 3263 100.0 59322 13230 1.226 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon H1000 106.3 78.4 5.08 3259 99.9 63000 12907 1.187 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-22 97.5 73.5 4.76 3253 100.0 63000 13037 1.208 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester WXR 100.1 73.8 4.78 3252 100.0 63000 13062 1.209 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 97.3 79.0 5.12 3228 100.0 63000 12403 1.208 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 94.8 70.7 4.58 3214 100.0 63000 12482 1.201 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 85.5 66.9 4.34 3201 100.0 63000 11631 1.209 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 85.4 67.4 4.37 3200 100.0 63000 12033 1.208 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 85.4 67.4 4.37 3200 100.0 63000 12033 1.208 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Hunter 90.4 69.6 4.51 3196 100.0 63000 11955 1.209 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 96.1 72.4 4.69 3196 99.4 63000 12461 1.198 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 99.9 72.4 4.69 3196 99.4 63000 12461 1.198 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 99.6 72.6 4.71 3196 100.0 63000 11694 1.220 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 204 90.1 69.4 4.49 3193 99.9 63000 12208 1.200 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 91.6 66.6 4.31 3185 100.0 63000 11490 1.216 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 87.5 66.7 4.32 3171 100.0 63000 11608 1.217 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 90.0 66.4 4.30 3170 100.0 63000 11470 1.214 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 93.6 73.6 4.77 3165 100.0 63000 11884 1.209 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4955 Enduron 97.5 70.8 4.59 3163 99.5 63000 12091 1.198 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 89.1 66.4 4.30 3162 100.0 63000 11418 1.233 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N165 99.9 73.7 4.78 3156 100.0 63000 11615 1.213 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4350 92.7 67.6 4.38 3151 100.0 63000 11493 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N160 100.3 71.7 4.65 3150 99.7 63000 11778 1.204 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4350 91.0 67.5 4.37 3150 100.0 63000 11465 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4831 94.4 67.4 4.37 3149 100.0 63000 11219 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S071 103.3 72.8 4.72 3147 100.0 63000 11455 1.239 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 3100 97.7 72.8 4.72 3147 100.0 63000 11455 1.239 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S070 90.1 66.5 4.31 3147 100.0 63000 11463 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Big Game 81.5 64.8 4.20 3138 100.0 63000 10964 1.212 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4895 81.4 60.7 3.93 3138 100.0 63000 11009 1.214 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4451 Enduron 87.4 64.4 4.17 3136 100.0 63000 11278 1.196 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 83.5 63.6 4.12 3135 100.0 63000 11122 1.217 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 85.6 64.8 4.20 3134 100.0 63000 11360 1.208 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-15 82.2 61.3 3.97 3134 100.0 63000 10978 1.213 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203B 82.5 61.6 3.99 3127 100.0 63000 10890 1.215 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S065 89.2 65.1 4.22 3120 100.0 63000 11035 1.216 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 92.3 66.6 4.32 3118 100.0 63000 10606 1.217 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4320 84.2 61.8 4.00 3116 100.0 63000 10621 1.201 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4166 Enduron 86.9 62.0 4.02 3115 100.0 63000 10955 1.196 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7977 Enduron 102.0 75.3 4.88 3112 94.4 63000 11923 1.200 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 203 old 83.5 63.0 4.08 3107 100.0 63000 10704 1.232 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon VARGET 85.3 61.5 3.99 3106 100.0 63000 10656 1.200 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4064 85.7 60.4 3.91 3096 100.0 63000 10457 1.205 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2700 85.9 66.8 4.33 3087 100.0 63000 10766 1.212 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S062 83.3 60.4 3.92 3077 100.0 63000 10280 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 201 81.0 59.1 3.83 3071 100.0 63000 10253 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex S060 81.2 58.9 3.82 3060 100.0 63000 10068 1.201 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 3031 81.2 56.6 3.67 3058 100.0 63000 9910 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N150 90.6 63.8 4.13 3055 100.0 63000 10061 1.224 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 82.8 60.4 3.92 3052 100.0 63000 10054 1.252 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N540 82.4 62.1 4.02 3048 100.0 63000 10078 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma 202 80.2 58.8 3.81 3047 100.0 63000 9928 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N140 82.2 60.1 3.89 3018 100.0 63000 9579 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
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Thanks for the QL
I have an xls spreadsheet that calculates ballistics that I wrote.
Fling me your email address via PM, I'll send you a copy.
Also works on sheets, for you Android sluts.
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