Not to be a hi-jacker, but I'll ask more specifically;
Is there a current production no-gunsmithing scope mount that can be used on a vintage Savage 99, such as a 1899 Takedown in 30-30? I believe mine was made around 1910 to 1915.
Nothing in current production. The Stith and the Miller Kodiak are from the '50s and the only no-drill mounts I know of. The 1899 doesn't work well with a Stith because the rear sight is located further down the barrel than the 99. I'm going to try a Miller Kodiak on an 1899 as soon as I get time.
When it comes to the 1899 there's not much help in the scope department.
rumor has it in the early stith days savage offered a factory all steel and a weaver 1 inch set up? wondering if anyone here can add to this? thanks chris
still looking for info. i thought that a fellow poster here worked in the factory in the early 50's? maybe he could shed some light. i know about the weaver on weaver thing. the early stith all steel mounts with an early weaver without covers for the adjustments i have seen several of these on rifles (eg's). doing some research on this i can not believe what stith's are bringing at auction someone gave over 600 bones for a 7/8'ths rig with a alaskan she was nice but not that nice. seems like crap sells at least 200 way out of my league. thanks chris
I'm not sure what you are asking? Can you clarify this statement? "i know about the weaver on weaver thing. the early stith all steel mounts with an early weaver without covers for the adjustments i have seen several of these on rifles (eg's)."
I assume this question has to do wtih Savage mounting scopes on the early none D&T'ed rifles made after WWII.
"early weaver without covers" would have been the K2.5 and K4 from 1947 through 1949(?). I don't think the Weaver base as we know it now was created till 1950 which is the same time Savage started The D&T'ed Model R.
I think the mounting of a scope in those early post-WWII days was left to the Gunsmith. If there were scopes mounted by Savage you will have a hard time proving it.
Savage...never say "never". Rick...
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The Saturn Boone prismatic scope attaches to the tang sight holes and works on any 99 except the very late models that are not D&T for a tang sight. It was made in both 2.5 and 4x, they are both clumsy and IMO the 4x is unacceptably clumsy. I had a 2.5 on a Winchester lever 30-30 and was reasonably well pleased with it, except it stuck up too high. But you don't have to screw up your rifle to install it. These scopes show up from time to time on Ebay but are getting pretty pricey.
What type? I'll PM you what I've seen, but it's kinda crazy price wise.
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I'm not sure what you are asking? Can you clarify this statement? "i know about the weaver on weaver thing. the early stith all steel mounts with an early weaver without covers for the adjustments i have seen several of these on rifles (eg's)."
I assume this question has to do wtih Savage mounting scopes on the early none D&T'ed rifles made after WWII.
"early weaver without covers" would have been the K2.5 and K4 from 1947 through 1949(?). I don't think the Weaver base as we know it now was created till 1950 which is the same time Savage started The D&T'ed Model R.
I think the mounting of a scope in those early post-WWII days was left to the Gunsmith. If there were scopes mounted by Savage you will have a hard time proving it.
Rick. So the time frame i am talking about is a short 2 years these early weavers fit in all steel stith on pristine eg's before the drill and tap. are the factory records complete during this frame? do any factory invoices still exist? if i set a rifle up to shoot (for example scope it) it becomes a user the ones i have seen have very little wear. maybe the stith and weaver set up were not very accurate so they were left in the closet. thanks chris
What you have done is not nearly as important as how you have done it!!! The Old Fart 2008 A.D.
Have no knowledge of a relationship between Savage & Stith, but there definitely was one at least briefly between Stith & Weaver. I own a late '40s/early '50s scope sold by Stith, but made by Weaver - so marked in both cases! It is a 4x, steel 1" tube, looks like a 'K' Weaver, but straight 1" front tube (no 'bell').
Stith later marketed the 26mm tube scopes made by Kollmorgan, until Redfield bought out the latter's hunting scope operation in the late '50s.
It is in a Stith mount, but I put that in that for my .22HP 99. BTW, the Weaver has only elevation adjustment; and my .22HP, which began life as a TD carbine, was FACTORY rebarreled w/ a 24" medium weight solid-frame tube in the early 1970s.
hi rick this is the set up i have seen several times on the pre d&t eg's i thought it must be more than a coincidence. it was neet to think maybe savage offered a stith from the factory. thanks chris
What you have done is not nearly as important as how you have done it!!! The Old Fart 2008 A.D.
