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Not sure what the beef with Hawke is, I have 3 of them and they have been good scopes. I had one that failed on a 458 Lott. They had a new one enrt to me in 2 days. In fact I have two of the same model- lots of eye relief, exactly the right amount of illumination and they hold up to 458 Lott recoil- at least the 30 WA does.


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Not sure what the beef with Hawke is, I have 3 of them and they have been good scopes. I had one that failed on a 458 Lott. They had a new one enrt to me in 2 days. In fact I have two of the same model- lots of eye relief, exactly the right amount of illumination and they hold up to 458 Lott recoil- at least the 30 WA does.

Did you have your receipt? That's the beef. Warrant the product not F'ing piece of paper. Cheers. I have at least eight Hawkes all purchased new from authorized retailers. Hawke can still F'off.


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Mtnboomer,

Haven't really been paying attention, but did they deny you service because you don't have a paper receipt?

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Originally Posted by Farmboy1
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
My list of companies I'll not purchase. What others?

No thanks HAWKE.
No thanks NIKON.



Nikon has a transferable warranty on sports optics. I have used it, just like I've used other companies warranties.

Most recent is Zeiss, and they are handling things well.

Copy that on the Nikon. You are right. I think they did that in the past few years.

Working on the lists...


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Originally Posted by Calvin
Mtnboomer,

Haven't really been paying attention, but did they deny you service because you don't have a paper receipt?

Nope. Just found out and saw on their website they'll not even accept shipment without return authorization which can only be obtained with recipe. Chickenchit IMO. So, I'll simply not endorse the company nor purchase their products.


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DRAFT, Looks like this

Based on written Warranty


No Receipt needed GOOD
Athlon
Burris
Bushnell
Leupold
Meopta
Nightforce
Nikon is GTG
Redfield NEW
Sightron
S&B (if you have to ask it's too much)
Steiner Full since 2014
SWFA
Tract
Vortex
Zeiss




Receipt Required BAD
Hawke
Leica
Nikon (they need to clarify)
Redfield OLD
Swarovski and Kahles (indicates post 2007 receipt required, US and Canada)
Trijicon (original registered owner)
Weaver

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Thanks. This is really nice to see. I am a receipt tosser.

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Swarovski and Kahles both are good to go on transferable, no receipt needed. Add this to your list.

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Originally Posted by Farmboy1
Swarovski and Kahles both are good to go on transferable, no receipt needed. Add this to your list.

I just went with their posted written policy....


https://repairservice.swarovskiopti...sa_2016_web.pdf?Status=Temp&sfvrsn=2


“Any KAHLES product purchased in North America that is not
sold to a consumer by an Authorized U.S. or Canadian Dealer
has no Authorized Warranty.”

When
you ship your product to us, please enclose your name,
shipping address, daytime phone number, a brief description
Garantiekarte_USA_2016-08_Schmuck_garantiekarte2003-3.qxd 24.08
Serial number
Customer (Name, Adress, E-Mail and Phone)
Purchased from
We recommend that you save this warranty certificate in
order to facilitate the handling of possible complaint claims
KAHLES Gesellschaft m.b.H.
Danfoss-Straße 5, 2353 Guntramsdorf, Austria
www.kahles.at | www.kahlesusa.com
of the problem, and a copy of the receipt from an authorized
U.S. or Canadian dealer.
Please write the Service Order
Number on the enclosure and on the outside of any
packaging.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
Thanks. This is really nice to see. I am a receipt tosser.

I guess I better do better at not being a tosser. (LOL I did that intentionally for Kingston)


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https://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en...Scope-Non-Electronic-Warranty-Sample.pdf


About 4 lines down, under the Lifetime Warranty section at the top, it specifically says "to original consumer purchaser only". Knowing Nikon's marketing expertise, this may or may not be true. Who knows? Not sure Nikon even knows for sure, as they sure don't know regarding thier Laserforce binos.


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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
DRAFT, Looks like this

Based on written Warranty


No Receipt needed GOOD
Athlon
Burris
Bushnell
Leupold
Nightforce
Nikon is GTG
Redfield NEW
Sightron
S&B (if you have to ask it's too much)
Steiner Full since 2014
SWFA
Tract
Vortex
Zeiss

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Boomer, Meopta also has a hassle free, no questions asked lifetime, transferable warranty. Oh, and superb customer service.


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Thanks!


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Re: Nikon. Possibly No fault on items with no electronics. With electric Limited lifetime on the non-electronics? I am moving them to Bad. They can clarify or file a grievance!


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Originally Posted by Farmboy1
Swarovski and Kahles both are good to go on transferable, no receipt needed. Add this to your list.


Swarovski is good to go, best customer service I have had the pleasure of dealing with. No receipt needed.


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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by Calvin
Mtnboomer,

Haven't really been paying attention, but did they deny you service because you don't have a paper receipt?

Nope. Just found out and saw on their website they'll not even accept shipment without return authorization which can only be obtained with recipe. Chickenchit IMO. So, I'll simply not endorse the company nor purchase their products.

Tossing your receipt is a recipe for disaster.

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Originally Posted by JGRaider
https://www.nikonsportoptics.com/en...Scope-Non-Electronic-Warranty-Sample.pdf


About 4 lines down, under the Lifetime Warranty section at the top, it specifically says "to original consumer purchaser only". Knowing Nikon's marketing expertise, this may or may not be true. Who knows? Not sure Nikon even knows for sure, as they sure don't know regarding thier Laserforce binos.


There is a Nikon rep on the forum. I will try to remember who it is and see if he'll chime in.

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Last November I returned a Nikon riflescope for service. No original box or receipt and I am not the original owner. Great customer service and no questions asked. I had a response via email from them in less than an hour with a shipping label. This is not a high end scope.

No idea about their electronics. As others have said, I won’t be buying another Nikon scope but it isn’t because of their warranty.

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I boxed a Burris up for a return trip last night. Will see how cs is this morning.
I had previously called and they said send it in. That was several months ago. Will report how much hassle I have.
I am not good about keeping receipts. There is probably an app that lets you take pics and organizes receipts like password vaults. Or there should be.

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All this because your secondhand Hawke rifle scope broke.


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