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It's like the new hot chick in the neighborhood that cant give a blow-job as good as some of the older chicks, but everyone still wants to find out for themselves anyway.
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It's like the new hot chick in the neighborhood that cant give a blow-job as good as some of the older chicks, but everyone still wants to find out for themselves anyway. You have SUCH a way with words....and analogies...
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It's like the new hot chick in the neighborhood that cant give a blow-job as good as some of the older chicks, but everyone still wants to find out for themselves anyway. Just, dang.
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It is one of the more prominent shooting matches. Winning the Creedmoor Match is sorta like winning the Masters in golf. http://www.nrai.ie/creedmoor-history.htmlThe 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge is named for the match.
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They just want constant reassurance that what they believe is the truth.
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I'm pretty sure that mule deer nailed it
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It's just another excuse for people to "let their freak flag fly", as I've said before, all a man really needs is an 8x57is on a good Mauser 98 action. Everything else is just fluff.
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I think someone just moved into gunner's neighborhood!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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I think the popularity comes down to the fact that a great many people are far more recoil sensitive than they will openly admit, and the fact that the vast majority of deer are killed at well under 300 yards, making the real lack of the 6.5 creed moor cartridges ability to provide a impressive down range punch on more than paper , of little consequence, to the majority of purchasers. I'm not saying you need a magnum, and a 6.5 creed moor cartridges ability , to kill game at reasonable ranges is well documented. but marketers are well aware that most game is killed at well under 300 yards, and that most people can,t hit crap past 300 yards. personally I see the practical advantage of the 6.5 creedmoor over a properly loaded 270 win, in the hands of joe average.... as ZERO,
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One advantage for Joe Average is he'll be burning 10 to 15 grains less powder per shot, with the attendant reduction in recoil/blast. So Joe may find more practice more fun.
From what I've observed a lot of people are over gunned and under practiced.
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Frankly, I think it is a case of reinventing the wheel by industry marketeers sprinkling a bit of pixie dust. I’m happy that a cartridge has been invented that replaces all the magnums so we only have to buy one cartridge for everything. Sort of like: If you like it, you can keep your health care plan....
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I find the "logic" in a lot of these conversations to be, well, I'll just say interesting.
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Yeah, me too. It's a well-known fact that most really hot chicks suck at blow jobs.
And yes, it was intended.
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From what I've observed a lot of people are over gunned and under practiced.
Yes, and a lot of folks burn lots of powder at the range off a bench and never practice offhand or from field rests and then wonder why they miss or poorly hit game. If one can’t hit a milk jug size target at 100 yards offhand standing, they might consider more practice. Just sayin’
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Sure, and less recoil/blast certainly won't hurt the motivation to practice more from whatever position.
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I'd rather be a free man in my grave, than living as a puppet or a slave....
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One advantage for Joe Average is he'll be burning 10 to 15 grains less powder per shot, with the attendant reduction in recoil/blast. So Joe may find more practice more fun.
From what I've observed a lot of people are over gunned and under practiced. Absolutely agree. I have been working the local range during sight in days since 1994. I have observer two to three hundred shooters each season. The majority are challenged to shoot a decent group at 100yds off a solid rest. Two big problems. Triggers are jerked instead of squeezing because of fear of recoil . Those who shoot the 30-06 with 180gr bullets & calibers on up are the worst. Not to say every one but with out a doubt most. Ask some one to shoot accurately at 100yds off hand & they walk away, let alone a make shift rest in the field. It's been my observation over the years that most of the game I have taken & seen taken has been under 200yds. The 6.5 CM is a useful cartridge , but the 260 Rem & 6.5x55 that proceeded it are just as good & have slightly higher velocity when loaded to the same pressure. It blows me away at the number of hunters that have not even touched their rifles since the last season ended. The name CM is ignored by physics. CM is used to sell a product. It accomplishes nothing more .
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Absolutely agree. I have been working the local range during sight in days since 1994. I have observer two to three hundred shooters each season. The majority are challenged to shoot a decent group at 100yds off a solid rest. Two big problems. Triggers are jerked instead of squeezing because of fear of recoil . Those who shoot the 30-06 with 180gr bullets & calibers on up are the worst. Not to say every one but with out a doubt most. Ask some one to shoot accurately at 100yds off hand & they walk away, let alone a make shift rest in the field. It's been my observation over the years that most of the game I have taken & seen taken has been under 200yds. The 6.5 CM is a useful cartridge , but the 260 Rem & 6.5x55 that proceeded it are just as good & have slightly higher velocity when loaded to the same pressure. It blows me away at the number of hunters that have not even touched their rifles since the last season ended. The name CM is ignored by physics. CM is used to sell a product. It accomplishes nothing more .
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It's like the new hot chick in the neighborhood that cant give a blow-job as good as some of the older chicks, but everyone still wants to find out for themselves anyway. You have SUCH a way with words....and analogies... That's what our good friend Big Lawyer Bob said. ; ] LOL, it's all good Dennis. And hell no Bender Of Iron, that would be a very expensive 'shooting session'
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It's so true Bighorn, "Mathematically" speaking, 'less' in no way can ever be 'more'
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ask your rabbi , priest or reverend , it's a new diety . it's a divine intervention to put an end to 270 .
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