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I complained to the Ebay seller today that Leupold says the scope is counterfeit.
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New message from: hiscope (9,991Green Star)
hi,this item is 100% authentic, made in US for Asia market, US may don't have this model or a little difference in details, many people don't know about it, we offer lifetime warranty, That is why so cheap. it has high quality and very clear and bright lens. if you don't satisfy with it when receive, we 100% accept return for any reason.
I feel sorry for the misunderstand, how about you keep it and I refund you 20% as solution?
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they are still on E-Bay for sale ,seen a new VX-3i 3X9X40 on sale for 150 bucks or there about, i thought wow great deal ,till i seen shipped from hong kong ,thought bet this is fake ,so i no buy


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Originally Posted by Clarkm
I complained to the Ebay seller today that Leupold says the scope is counterfeit.
I got this back




New message from: hiscope (9,991Green Star)
hi,this item is 100% authentic, made in US for Asia market, US may don't have this model or a little difference in details, many people don't know about it, we offer lifetime warranty, That is why so cheap. it has high quality and very clear and bright lens. if you don't satisfy with it when receive, we 100% accept return for any reason.
I feel sorry for the misunderstand, how about you keep it and I refund you 20% as solution?
Customer Service:
No case, No Negative/Neutral feedback please, contact us first, thank you.
Because of the different time zone, we will reply within 24-48 hours, Please not open case or leave bad feedback, thank you!


Did you leave "counterfeit" feedback?

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Did you leave "counterfeit" feedback?


Not yet. I am not going to accept the 20% of $200 back, as I suspected it was counterfeit when I bought it.

There used to be topless bar on highway 99 in Seattle with a billboard that said "50 beautiful dancing girls, and two ugly ones"

I now own 50 Leupolds and one counterfeit. I got my money's worth. Now I will leave the "counterfeit" feedback.


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It might actually have better tracking did anyone check. I sold my last Leupold a month ago sick of the crappy mechanical problens

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Originally Posted by cumminscowboy
It might actually have better tracking did anyone check. I sold my last Leupold a month ago sick of the crappy mechanical problens


I could do this kind of check



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Originally Posted by Clarkm
I complained to the Ebay seller today that Leupold says the scope is counterfeit.
I got this back




New message from: hiscope (9,991Green Star)
hi,this item is 100% authentic, made in US for Asia market, US may don't have this model or a little difference in details, many people don't know about it, we offer lifetime warranty, That is why so cheap. it has high quality and very clear and bright lens. if you don't satisfy with it when receive, we 100% accept return for any reason.
I feel sorry for the misunderstand, how about you keep it and I refund you 20% as solution?
Customer Service:
No case, No Negative/Neutral feedback please, contact us first, thank you.
Because of the different time zone, we will reply within 24-48 hours, Please not open case or leave bad feedback, thank you!


If I got that answer, I'd immediately open the case. If it is not as described, the seller is forced to provide return shipping, or a full refund without return. Then, sell the thing as a counterfeit, and some airsoft wannabe will be overjoyed with it.

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Funny that the serial number on the scope is not the same as the serial number on the box.


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Originally Posted by KenMi
Apparently the shipping location of Singapore means nothing.

They are starting to list domestic locations, but no doubt they would still ship from overseas, unless they have a 3rd party here.

If in doubt, just request the serial number.



I noticed they are starting to have domestic shipping addresses. I saw a counterfeit Leupold shipping from Missouri the other day instead of the usual Left Coast address.


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Originally Posted by FLNative
Thinking not. The counterfeits are all over eBay right now, listing after listing of VXIII 3.5-10, all shown as being from Hong Kong or Singapore. The deal was on a VX3i from a reputable eBay retailer in AL.


This, and just look at all of the Zeiss fraud, copy, clone scopes all over the auction site.
Some sellers openly proclaim they are a copy, etc.

It seems that ebay or the companies being defrauded do not care, as there is nothing done
to those ads, even when being reported.

All Ebay cares about is receiving "FEES".

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Yep, 10% of a sale makes them look the other way. There have been reloading components, bullets, brass, ammo, high cap. magazines, etc. that have all run through the whole auction time and sold.
If Ebay gets accused, they just say the listing didnt follow their rules, but wasnt noticed or reported.

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$156.99....Yisibigbearstore on Ebay VX-3 3.5-10x40 Regular price $523.30 Vrary Good Price. Obviously, counterfeit 🧐


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Has anyone seen a counterfeit Leupold FX-II 2.5 X 20 mm Ultralight?

That is the 2.5 X fixed, it used to be called the Compact.

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Hello everyone! Counterfeits are a big issue these days, and unfortunately we and other manufacturers have encountered more and more examples lately. Unfortunately due to the variety of counterfeits out there (and the variety of scopes we at Leupold have made over the years), there is no single way to identify a counterfeit.

Your best protection against counterfeits is to purchase from established sporting goods retailers. We often see counterfeits from private eBay Sellers, Wish.com, ioffer.com, aliexpress.com, and Alibaba.com, as well as many other small websites that try to undersell retailers. There is no such thing as a Leupold Riflescope made specifically for the Asian market. All Leupold scopes are manufactured in our only facility in Beaverton Oregon – that has always been the case, and always will be. A genuine Leupold will not ship from Hong Kong, Singapore, or any other Asian port.

If you are purchasing a scope used or from a private seller and want to confirm its authenticity, please contact Leupold directly. The best way to confirm authenticity would be to email us at ProductSpecialistLeupold.com with a serial number, full description of the scope, and attached images of the whole scope. We track information on all counterfeits that we come across, and can typically ID a fake pretty easily.

That said, it’s a bit of an arms race. Counterfeiters are always trying make their fakes look more real. We’re seeing new fakes on a regular basis, so emailing us the above info also helps us keep on top of the issue.


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But do the Counterfeits track better? Lost confidence in some Leupolds, ability to track and hold zero please try and improve on that. If you do I will buy more.


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Originally Posted by kk alaska
But do the Counterfeits track better? Lost confidence in some Leupolds, ability to track and hold zero please try and improve on that. If you do I will buy more.







Originally Posted by LeupoldOptics
Hello everyone! Counterfeits are a big issue these days, and unfortunately we and other manufacturers have encountered more and more examples lately. Unfortunately due to the variety of counterfeits out there (and the variety of scopes we at Leupold have made over the years), there is no single way to identify a counterfeit.

Your best protection against counterfeits is to purchase from established sporting goods retailers. We often see counterfeits from private eBay Sellers, Wish.com, ioffer.com, aliexpress.com, and Alibaba.com, as well as many other small websites that try to undersell retailers. There is no such thing as a Leupold Riflescope made specifically for the Asian market. All Leupold scopes are manufactured in our only facility in Beaverton Oregon – that has always been the case, and always will be. A genuine Leupold will not ship from Hong Kong, Singapore, or any other Asian port.

If you are purchasing a scope used or from a private seller and want to confirm its authenticity, please contact Leupold directly. The best way to confirm authenticity would be to email us at ProductSpecialistLeupold.com with a serial number, full description of the scope, and attached images of the whole scope. We track information on all counterfeits that we come across, and can typically ID a fake pretty easily.

That said, it’s a bit of an arms race. Counterfeiters are always trying make their fakes look more real. We’re seeing new fakes on a regular basis, so emailing us the above info also helps us keep on top of the issue.



Please read kk alaska's post and get back to us...


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Originally Posted by kk alaska
But do the Counterfeits track better? Lost confidence in some Leupolds, ability to track and hold zero please try and improve on that. If you do I will buy more.



If SWFA can do it on $300 scopes, Leupold should as well.....a 3.5-10x40 vx3i CDS that actually tracked and held zero even at 15-16 oz, might sell ok....

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
$156.99....Yisibigbearstore on Ebay VX-3 3.5-10x40 Regular price $523.30 Vrary Good Price. Obviously, counterfeit 🧐


Obviously that seller is on crack. I wouldn't give that much for a real VX3 3.5-10X40, let alone a counterfeit... I don't care how vrery good the deal is...


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Originally Posted by LeupoldOptics
Hello everyone! Counterfeits are a big issue these days, and unfortunately we and other manufacturers have encountered more and more examples lately. Unfortunately due to the variety of counterfeits out there (and the variety of scopes we at Leupold have made over the years), there is no single way to identify a counterfeit.

Your best protection against counterfeits is to purchase from established sporting goods retailers. We often see counterfeits from private eBay Sellers, Wish.com, ioffer.com, aliexpress.com, and Alibaba.com, as well as many other small websites that try to undersell retailers. There is no such thing as a Leupold Riflescope made specifically for the Asian market. All Leupold scopes are manufactured in our only facility in Beaverton Oregon – that has always been the case, and always will be. A genuine Leupold will not ship from Hong Kong, Singapore, or any other Asian port.

If you are purchasing a scope used or from a private seller and want to confirm its authenticity, please contact Leupold directly. The best way to confirm authenticity would be to email us at ProductSpecialistLeupold.com with a serial number, full description of the scope, and attached images of the whole scope. We track information on all counterfeits that we come across, and can typically ID a fake pretty easily.

That said, it’s a bit of an arms race. Counterfeiters are always trying make their fakes look more real. We’re seeing new fakes on a regular basis, so emailing us the above info also helps us keep on top of the issue.



I got a smoking deal for you my friend. Send one of your upper end rifle scopes to me, and I'll compare tracking to my cheap azzed SWFA SS rifle scope. Hell, I can even drive to Beaverton, if you wish. I'll post results on this site. Maybe the owners and managers of Leupold can watch that and lean something and really change things up and put a good dependable product out there. I could care the fu ck less how good your warranty is, even when its a given that the purchaser will undoubtedly be using that service... Oh, by the way, SWFA has a stellar warranty policy as well. Leupold isn't the only "dog and pony show" around. They may work for some guys that only shoot their rifles once or twice a year. It's those guys and the old timers, that have unflailing brand loyalty, that keep your business afloat.


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Originally Posted by Hiaring8
Originally Posted by kk alaska
But do the Counterfeits track better? Lost confidence in some Leupolds, ability to track and hold zero please try and improve on that. If you do I will buy more.



If SWFA can do it on $300 scopes, Leupold should as well.....a 3.5-10x40 vx3i CDS that actually tracked and held zero even at 15-16 oz, might sell ok....


Yep, I tried 2 Leupold VX3 3.5-10X40 with CDS consecutively and total fail...


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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