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Originally Posted by LeupoldOptics
Hello everyone! Counterfeits are a big issue these days, and unfortunately we and other manufacturers have encountered more and more examples lately. Unfortunately due to the variety of counterfeits out there (and the variety of scopes we at Leupold have made over the years), there is no single way to identify a counterfeit.

Your best protection against counterfeits is to purchase from established sporting goods retailers. We often see counterfeits from private eBay Sellers, Wish.com, ioffer.com, aliexpress.com, and Alibaba.com, as well as many other small websites that try to undersell retailers. There is no such thing as a Leupold Riflescope made specifically for the Asian market. All Leupold scopes are manufactured in our only facility in Beaverton Oregon – that has always been the case, and always will be. A genuine Leupold will not ship from Hong Kong, Singapore, or any other Asian port.

If you are purchasing a scope used or from a private seller and want to confirm its authenticity, please contact Leupold directly. The best way to confirm authenticity would be to email us at ProductSpecialistLeupold.com with a serial number, full description of the scope, and attached images of the whole scope. We track information on all counterfeits that we come across, and can typically ID a fake pretty easily.

That said, it’s a bit of an arms race. Counterfeiters are always trying make their fakes look more real. We’re seeing new fakes on a regular basis, so emailing us the above info also helps us keep on top of the issue.


I have a counterfeit 2-7x33 VX2. The differences between the counterfeit scope and a genuine Leupold 2-7x33 VX1 aren't all that obvious until they are viewed side-by-side:

On the counterfeit scope, the differences are:

- The power adjustment ring is wider and has a more pronounced "bump".
- The magnification markings on the power adjustment ring are marked "2X", "3X", "4X", "5X", "6X", and "7X".
- The turret caps that protect the windage and elevation knobs are taller.
- The finish is more of a satin than a matte.

On the genuine scope, the difference are:

- The power adjustment ring is narrower and has a less pronounced "bump".
- The magnification markings on the power adjustment ring are marked "2", "4", and "7" with tick marks at 3X, 5X, and 6X.
- The turrent caps that protect the windage and elevation knobs are shorter.
- The finish is matte.

I have a lot of genuine Leupold 2-7x33 scopes, but the differences weren't obvious until I compared the scopes side-by-side. I doubt that the average consumer is likely to notice the differences and the differences are so subtle that even experience buyers may get taken in. I know of a small local gun shop that paid a premium for a used rifle that came to them with a Leupold 3.5-10x40 scope that turned out to be a counterfeit.

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But do the Counterfeits track better? Lost confidence in some Leupolds, ability to track and hold zero please try and improve on that. If you do I will buy more.



If SWFA can do it on $300 scopes, Leupold should as well.....a 3.5-10x40 vx3i CDS that actually tracked and held zero even at 15-16 oz, might sell ok....


Yep, I tried 2 Leupold VX3 3.5-10X40 with CDS consecutively and total fail...


Note to self......"DO NOT BUY ANY LEUPOLD SCOPES FROM BSA1917"!!!!

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Must be living a charmed life. I have never had a Leupold scope fail. One and only beef with Leupold was when they doubled their custom shop retrofit charges a year ago.



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Originally Posted by Orion2000
Must be living a charmed life. I have never had a Leupold scope fail. One and only beef with Leupold was when they doubled their custom shop retrofit charges a year ago.



Pretty much my experience too.

I used to swap out reticles for the heavy duplex, but now it is too expensive. Time to find a manufacturer that wants to help resolve problems, not put them into place.

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Originally Posted by dingo




I purchased a fake on Ebay for $300 AUD which, at the time, I thought was a good price for the genuine product. After paying for it via Paypal it hadn't arrived 10 days later, so I sent the seller a nasty messages requesting the scope. He messaged back saying he didn't have a Paypal account,blah,blah,blah. In the end, I got the scope (a Leupold confirmed fake) and realised the transaction had not gone through so I cancelled payment through Paypal. I sent the seller a massage saying he could have his scope back when he paid for return postage. I never heard from him agian. So at the end of the day, I got the scope without paying for it. I was very lucky. Leupold confirmed it was FAKE via the serial number.

Its still sitting unused in the box it came in. Here's some pics.






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Thats a pretty good copy

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Originally Posted by Orion2000
Must be living a charmed life. I have never had a Leupold scope fail. One and only beef with Leupold was when they doubled their custom shop retrofit charges a year ago.




I thought I was living a charmed life as well - until I bought a NF and realized I didn't need to hit the scope, shoot it, and move it 10 clicks to get it to move 1" at 100 yards...

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I always wonder why when they fake these scopes, they don't take the time to at least make the packaging look authentic. I can't imagine it's that difficult the get the font size and print correct, and duplicate a label from the real product. I'd be really upset if I bit the bullet (no pun intended) and invested in a Leupie just to find out it's as phony as a $3.00 bill. Jeez if they start faking 50 year old K-4 El Paso's, I'm screwed!


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Probly tracks better than an authentic Leupold.


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Wow the guy from Leupold on here to help out and a couple jackasses want to troll him on scope tracking through second hand info? GFY's


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Originally Posted by peeshooter
Wow the guy from Leupold on here to help out and a couple jackasses want to troll him on scope tracking through second hand info? GFY's


Internet Tough Guys are everywhere


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Maybe he should come back and address the tracking issue....but that won't happen


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Im a little surprised at some of the issues people have had with their Leupold optics on here. Ive got 2 VX3i 3.5-10x40s and they are both great. I don't spin turrets or anything but as a set and forget scope...I think they are awful tough to beat.

Ive had them on a couple 375s as well with no issue.

The only think Leupold makes that I don't care for are their rings and bases. I prefer the Talley steel or even the aluminum Talleys.


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This is typical campfire BS. It’s cool to pile on


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Originally Posted by Bill_N
This is typical campfire BS. It’s cool to pile on

Really?


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
Maybe he should come back and address the tracking issue....but that won't happen


IIRC, the Leupold guy has previously posted that he won't answer questions posed on internet sites like this. He only posts information that might be of interest to the shooting sports community.

I sent him a PM asking if Leupold was going to offer a shotgun scope with a heavy duplex reticle and he told me to call customer service.

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I'll address it Leopold won't change a thing they are making their margins on wares they are selling and 90% or more don't know any better


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Originally Posted by Clarkm

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This scope was $200 and ships from Hong Kong.

But I had to see what would happen.

Today is 18 days later and it was in my mail box.

I called Leupold Customer service and they said it was counterfeit and they want to know where I got it.

China copies everything. Your IPhone is made in China, you can buy an IPhone made in same factory that went out the back door for 1/3 the price here in Canada.


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Originally Posted by dvdegeorge
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This is typical campfire BS. It’s cool to pile on

Really?


Yea, typical of guys with 20k posts. The semi tough guy schtick


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Originally Posted by Bill_N
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Originally Posted by Bill_N
This is typical campfire BS. It’s cool to pile on

Really?


Yea, typical of guys with 20k posts. The semi tough guy schtick

Or those that actually shoot and use things instead of pretending


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+1 Not slamming any high particular posters but I'm sure there is lots of keyboard Safaris, and anyone with so many posts must be in a wheelchair or have nothing else to do in their lives. Pitiful actually if this site is the highlight of their lives and they spend all their free time on here.


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