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I have been pondering the Valk ever since it hit the news.
I might get me a savage 18 inch and load up something 75 to 77
To think you got an auto loading light weight carbine that is certain death flat to 500 yards all day long...
Hopefully good brass will come in abundance at a good price
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I read an article this morning that ballisticians recommend 24'' barrels for the Valkyrie. Does anyone have any thoughts on barrel length? Formidilosus, I'm especially interested in your input. The Valk works fine in all barrel lengths. I personally don’t like long barrels and would go 18” max. Better terminal ballistics?
A 90 224 make mo damage than a 243 90grain?
.? Different for the same bullet type. So imagine a 90gr Hornady ELD-M or similar for both. That’s is a fragmenting bullet that as it penetrates it’s peeling the nose off until it fragments completely or it looses enough mass to cease penetration. The .224 version has more bullet to peel off. You’ll get deeper penetration with similar width of wounding versus the .243 version.
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There is a nice write up on the 224 in the Hodgdon 2019 annual reloading manual.
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The real advantage to the Valkyrie is heavy's in a mag length round; to me with the higher BC 80's + higher velocity is near optimum for that round.
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The real advantage to the Valkyrie is heavy's in a mag length round; to me with the higher BC 80's + higher velocity is near optimum for that round.
MM For sure. Mines pretty wicked with 75 ELDs at 2975. I’ve got the 88’s ready to go soon.
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I kicked around a Valkyrie or a .22 Grendel for a bit. Thinkin' 1:7 ARP barrel. 20-22". Rifle or Rifle+.
While the suck is strong with Hornady or Federal Brass, Starline makes brass for the Valk and in 6.5 Grendel. If their rifle brass can hang with their pistol brass, it should be GTG.
IF brass quality is the biggest issue, Lapua makes 6.5 Grendel brass. One easy pass through a sizer die should settle any brass quality questions/issues.
Grendel honestly made more sense to me. Shorter case leaves more room in the mag for 88's, but admittedly I've loaded for neither and it may be a non issue.
Fact is, I think I've settled on pitching together a 1:7 .223AI on a bolt gun. But I waffle more than John Kerry..............
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I have some factory ammo in 4 different weights that I'm going to begin testing when the wind slows down to under 30 mph...
It will also give me some brass to load back.
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Fact is, I think I've settled on pitching together a 1:7 .223AI on a bolt gun.
You won't regret that decision. David
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Seems like the target market for this and the .22 Nosler are pretty small, though maybe those few shoot a bunch. Since I'm a bolt gun and falling block kinda guy, there are better choices. This is exactly the way I see it..... Further, I completely understand the desire to shoot heavy bullets in the 22 calibers.....but IMO we are just better off to have a closer look at the somewhat larger calibers....having said that, it's no big trick to make a .223, 22-250, or .220 Swift or even a 22-6mm or .22 Middlestead using a fast twist barrel
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I think it's a dumb idea myself. Why are we trying to do so much with a .22 caliber bullet? next thing we will be trying to shoot 105 grain 22s with a 5 twist barrel. Where does the madness end?
If you want to shoot at very long ranges, don't try to do it with a mouse gun. Simple as that. I think you should check out the 226 Barnes QT and with the newer powders it should do even better. Just saying. Cheers NC
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