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How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws?

Off the charts.

This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.

The Constitution had a fail safe against this. It was the requirement that the homeowner be given an opportunity to inspect the warrant before force was applied to gain entry. The purpose of the warrant presentation and inspection was to ensure the homeowner had the chance to know the invasion was lawful, so as to know not to resist with counter force. Remove that feature, and you get this sort of situation where the homeowner feels compelled to repel armed invaders into his home, resulting in death on all sides and a kind of society inconsistent with liberty.

This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.

The War On Drugs has transformed our culture... at least as much as the drugs themselves. From no knock warrants, to SWAT teams to Civil forfeiture, our inherent God given rights are threatened on a wholesale basis.

We read on this forum frequently about the sheep and wolves making sheep dogs a neccissity. Sheepdogs herd sheep and rely on fear on the part of the sheep to do their job. Cops who see themselves as Great Pyrenees type sheep dogs overlook the fact that many of their “sheep” are armed and don’t cotton to wolves or big dogs.

Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.

It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.

This and Broward come immediately to mind.

How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws?

Off the charts.

Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles

Goines is a piece of work. “Shot twice”? The first arose when he was peeing against some guy’s tree after an undercover drug buy, the second arose from a road rage incident on the loop.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc13....oversial-raid-shot-twice-before/5141523/

Next question is why that house, why that couple? Was the Cop wanting to buy the house after the couple lost everything ?

Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.

Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.

Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.

Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.

If such a defense were put up each and every time a no knock search were employed, we'd see them disappear.

PS Even knock searches amount to the same thing, e.g., some knocks and mumble something from outside the door, maybe you even hear the word police shouted, and then the door comes down. Shouting police before the door comes down is no guarantee that it's not a home invasion rape, murder, robbery.

I don't think the "overzealous cop" genre is exactly new.