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This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within.
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Anything less than being charged with murder is not justice. The 2nd cop Bryant sounds complicate as well. All forms or SWATTING need a hangman's noose. But SWATTING would be impossible without the concept having been allowed to develop in the first place, having no legitimate place in a free society. How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws? Off the charts. Yep.
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This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within. The Constitution had a fail safe against this. It was the requirement that the homeowner be given an opportunity to inspect the warrant before force was applied to gain entry. The purpose of the warrant presentation and inspection was to ensure the homeowner had the chance to know the invasion was lawful, so as to know not to resist with counter force. Remove that feature, and you get this sort of situation where the homeowner feels compelled to repel armed invaders into his home, resulting in death on all sides and a kind of society inconsistent with liberty.
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This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within. The Constitution had a fail safe against this. It was the requirement that the homeowner be given an opportunity to inspect the warrant before force was applied to gain entry. The purpose of the warrant presentation and inspection was to ensure the homeowner had the chance to know the invasion was lawful, so as to know not to resist with counter force. Remove that feature, and you get this sort of situation where the homeowner feels compelled to repel armed invaders into his home, resulting in death on all sides and a kind of society inconsistent with liberty. ^^^^^^^ I couldn't agree more with this statement
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The War On Drugs has transformed our culture... at least as much as the drugs themselves. From no knock warrants, to SWAT teams to Civil forfeiture, our inherent God given rights are threatened on a wholesale basis.
We read on this forum frequently about the sheep and wolves making sheep dogs a neccissity. Sheepdogs herd sheep and rely on fear on the part of the sheep to do their job. Cops who see themselves as Great Pyrenees type sheep dogs overlook the fact that many of their “sheep” are armed and don’t cotton to wolves or big dogs.
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This is unbelievable. It’s like a script from “The Shield”. That department needs a scrub down from top to bottom. There are fail safes in place to keep this sort of thing happening. Apparently none of them worked which indicates severe issues within. In every liberal controlled form of govt, the corruption within it is epic. More of that agenda to destroy our country.
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He needs to get the needle.
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Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
This and Broward come immediately to mind.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The War On Drugs has transformed our culture... at least as much as the drugs themselves. From no knock warrants, to SWAT teams to Civil forfeiture, our inherent God given rights are threatened on a wholesale basis.
We read on this forum frequently about the sheep and wolves making sheep dogs a neccissity. Sheepdogs herd sheep and rely on fear on the part of the sheep to do their job. Cops who see themselves as Great Pyrenees type sheep dogs overlook the fact that many of their “sheep” are armed and don’t cotton to wolves or big dogs. Well said.
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Chief needs firing ASAP. If he has been I missed it.
It amazes me how far behind some huge departments can be in this country and the levels of fugk ups that have to occur before it's brought to the surface.
This and Broward come immediately to mind. Two flagrant examples. Both liberal controlled local govt.
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Anything less than being charged with murder is not justice. The 2nd cop Bryant sounds complicate as well. All forms or SWATTING need a hangman's noose. But SWATTING would be impossible without the concept having been allowed to develop in the first place, having no legitimate place in a free society. How much swatting is going to occur with Red Flag Laws? Off the charts. That's what I say to someone when I find support for a RFL, I also tell them I'll support a RFL when the is stiff penalties for falsely reporting on a RFL and I mean 1 year jail time as a minimum type of punishment for denying some one a Constitutional right and up to life in prison if a falsely accused gets hurt in the process.
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So many good posts on this thread I’d be here all day responding to them all. I’ll just say it’s pretty apparent we all agree this was a gross miscarriage of justice made possible not just by endemic corruption but by the erosion of civil liberties that have been in place to keep this sort of thing from happening. Based on the comments so far, it seems as though it should be common sense but that doesn’t seem to be the case anymore. The system is broken, people are broken, somethings gotta give. This country is not the same place I grew up in.
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Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles
Look out for number 1, don't step in number 2.
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Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies.
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Goines is a piece of work. “Shot twice”? The first arose when he was peeing against some guy’s tree after an undercover drug buy, the second arose from a road rage incident on the loop. https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc13....oversial-raid-shot-twice-before/5141523/Next question is why that house, why that couple? Was the Cop wanting to buy the house after the couple lost everything ? Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less. Wrong house.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies. It's precisely what is ongoing with the Mueller Investigation. Nothing but an unconstitutional action, lie, hoax, and coup perpetrated by liberals to remove or cripple a duly elected POTUS.
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Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies. I don't think the "overzealous cop" genre is exactly new.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.
If such a defense were put up each and every time a no knock search were employed, we'd see them disappear. PS Even knock searches amount to the same thing, e.g., someone knocks and mumbles something from outside your home's door, maybe you even hear the word police shouted, and then the door comes down. Shouting police before the door comes down is no guarantee that it's not a home invasion rape, murder, torture, robbery.
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Meanwhile Dennis Tuttle deserves a monument for his heroic defense of his wife and his home. Absolutely spectacular performance against five veteran armed and trained assailants, with a revolver no less.
If such a defense were put up each and every time a no knock search were employed, we'd see them disappear. PS Even knock searches amount to the same thing, e.g., some knocks and mumble something from outside the door, maybe you even hear the word police shouted, and then the door comes down. Shouting police before the door comes down is no guarantee that it's not a home invasion rape, murder, robbery. Judges sign those.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Watch the show "Chicago PD" a few episodes, and count the number of times the police ignore the law, to get their man. Hero's doing what it takes to get their man. This is Hollywood conditioning the people to obey or else. miles Yep. That theme has become typical in TV and movies. I don't think the "overzealous cop" genre is exactly new. Dirty Harry's methods are positively Joe Friday compared to what they're doing today in cop drama.
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