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i feel Carlos Hathcock was and never got the credit he deserved. my friend who was a Ranger Sniper for 8 years believes so too .


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Hes the only one your heard or read about for decades before American Sniper guy. So Id say he got his due.


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Simo Häyhä

Chuck Mahwinney and Vasily Zaytsev were also superior to Hathcock (with all due respect to Gunny)

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Seems like he got some recognition for his service.


He is widely known anyway.


Maybe second in name recognition only to Chris Kyle??


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the fat Russian woman from WWII , can't remember her name.... I guess she is not very well known, after all
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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Simo Häyhä


Yep, he was the best by most accounts.

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Carlos Hathcock,Chris Kyle and Chuck Mawhinney


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Well there was no Hollywood movie made about Hathcock per se. So there's that.

When someone mentioned snipers before 2014 Hathcock's name was always at the top.


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the public seems to think Chris Kyle was because of the movie that Kyle`s book was used, many people never have heard of Carlos Hathcock

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Originally Posted by pete53
the public seems to think Cris Kyle was because of the movie that Kyle`s book was used, many people never have heard of Carlos Hathcock


Thats gonna be a generational problem though.


What about Alvin York? Maybe not a "sniper" but a dang good shot.


Your grand parents knew of him.


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Originally Posted by pete53
the public seems to think Chris Kyle was because of the movie that Kyle`s book was used, many people never have heard of Carlos Hathcock



Just about every shooter here would know of him, even as a lad I knew of him.


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Not to dismiss any of the work that Hathcock, or any of the more "modern day" snipers have done, but they pretty much pale in comparison to what the German and Russian snipers did in WW2, and the conditions under which they had to fight. Same way with the Finn, Simo Hayha, who just might have been the best of the lot.

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Bert Waldron. Held the record for most US military kills until 2011. Met the guy when he was working for Mitch Werbel and my BIL was doing business with them.

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Hayha was a name I didn't know about till this decade. Heck of a story. It's known that Hathcock had many more kills than were confirmed, & likely the same with others. All, amazing folks.

FWIW, I enjoyed Hathcocks book a lot more than Kyles.

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Henry McBride. He wrote the book "A Rifleman Went To War."


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Timothy Murphy, Revolutionary War. The more you know about the man, the more impressive.
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Originally Posted by JamesJr
Not to dismiss any of the work that Hathcock, or any of the more "modern day" snipers have done, but they pretty much pale in comparison to what the German and Russian snipers did in WW2, and the conditions under which they had to fight. Same way with the Finn, Simo Hayha, who just might have been the best of the lot.


How is that?


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Originally Posted by kid0917
the fat Russian woman from WWII , can't remember her name.... I guess she is not very well known, after all
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I would second this I believe her count was over 500 confirmed IIRC and I believe she had been wounded once or twice as well if memory is correct.
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