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Read what fishdog52 wrote jag the 3rd and 4th words
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Carlos Hathcock gets maximum cool points for mounting a Unertl scope on an M2 and making up to 2500 yard shots with it.

Sure hope you're being sarcastic. That sonofabitch should have been tried for murder. (Horiuchi)

obviously they all could shoot.the one I would never want hunting me above all of them would be carlos hathcock.the term relentless and also mentally tough with zero quit defines this man..not demeaning others at all.

I just finished the book about Carlos Hathcock "Marine Sniper", If he wanted you dead you best be making the sign of the cross. Certainly not taking anything away from some of the other well known snipers but reading how he once crawled for three days into position over open ground to kill a VC general and then get away is an incredible feat. And also the fact that he was instrumental in helping set up the Marine sniper program from the beginning he is at the top of my list. God bless him!

Two books that might interest you all are:

"Avenging Angels" by Lyuba Vinogradova. It's about the young women of the Soviet Union's WWII Sniper Corps.

And "Notes of a Russian Sniper " by Vassali Zaitsev. It's about his time mostly at Stalingrad.

Both are available in English translations. Amazon and Abebooks.

Carlos

I’d say this was pretty impressive.

https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/sniper-shot-record

And I think he was dealing with the toughest environment of any of the others & with likely much fewer targets of opportunity.

The man was a hunter extraordinaire, not just a shooter.

MM

fixt it

His body of work encompassed the entire craft not just shooting a rifle and killing people. Some will just never understand that. When they hear sniper all they think about is the shooting aspect.

Yes, I think you're right.

Taking nothing away from Chris Kyle, but I'd count him as more of a shooter than a hunter, stalker.

But again, the environments were so different, I also think it's hard to make a direct comparison.

MM

I'm not sure you can compare them, how would Hathcock done in an urban setting, how would Zaytsev have done in the jungle with ants and leeches up his ass..or Kyle. Hathcock I believe had to work harder for a shot than Kyle did, Kyle was taking humvee rides from roof to roof in a target rich environment, running and gunning.

I know nothing about who was better, but I believe Hathcock endured more misery per shot.

Hathcock was a hunter. Kyle was a shooter. Not taking anything from Kyle, just different circumstances.

I don't imagine Stalingrad , Finland, the Western Front or Gallipoli were all that pleasant Either

Give me the cold and warm jacket over the jungle and the insects.

KAG!

Thats not that's not entirely true.

Before deploying to South Vietnam, Hathcock had won shooting championships, including matches at Camp Perry and the Wimbledon Cup. In 1966, Hathcock started his deployment in the Vietnam War as a military policeman and later became a sniper after Captain Edward James Land pushed the Marines into raising snipers in every platoon. Land later recruited Marines who had set their own records in sharpshooting; he quickly found Hathcock, who had won the Wimbledon Cup, the most prestigious prize for long-range shooting, at Camp Perry in 1965.[3]

dave

With all things being considered, I doubt there was a war that could equal the Eastern Front in WW2. The Germans and the Russians hated each other passionately, and conditions under which they fought could be downright miserable. The survival rate there was probably about as low as it could have been anywhere. Some of the Russian snipers ran up scores of 500+ kills, and did so with a rifle that's not generally thought of as being all that great. While they did have a lot of targets to shoot at, those targets were also shooting back at them.