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I have a 686+ that the Smith & Wesson Custom Shop did a trigger job on after I sent it in right after I bought it because of AD's (light primer strikes). It is a real sweet shooter now.

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I just picked up a pristine 6” Ruger Security Six for a song. It will keep 5 shots in 2” when I do my part and it has enough weight with the 6” barrel to handle heavy loads well.


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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
1. 5" Model 27
2. 3" Model 66
3. 4" Model 686


5" 27-2. An awesome revolver
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Any pre lock I do like the 686 and the 28

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Originally Posted by RGK
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1. 5" Model 27
2. 3" Model 66
3. 4" Model 686


5" 27-2. An awesome revolver
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What grips are those?


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Originally Posted by tominboise
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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
1. 5" Model 27
2. 3" Model 66
3. 4" Model 686


5" 27-2. An awesome revolver
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What grips are those?
Roper design. I was going to comment on them. Guess I did. Skeeter special.

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My 5" 627 PC 8 shot. My first N frame, I wounder why I waited so long.

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Nice gun


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Originally Posted by Fotis
Are the newer 686s bad compared to the older smith's?

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See my post a few posts back. The advent of MIM corresponds roughly to the lock guns and many don't like MIM. I think the new guns are plenty good but prefer the look of the old guns. By the time you get done modifying new ones to look like the old ones, you might as well have paid extra for an older model.
MIM doesn't bother me that much. The early attempts at the process brought it into question, but I think its been used successfully enough throughout the industry to not base a decision on that alone.

The locks still have that stigma, as well. I deleted mine in my J-frame and (now gone) 329PD.

The show-stopper for me, however, is the over-clocked screw-in barrels and the canted barrels. I was considering a 3" 69 Magnum, but a significant number of barrels were really misaligned on the S&W guns I was picking up.

So yeah.....Here's one vote for newer Smiths being "bad" when compared to the older ones. They need to go back to pinning the barrel.


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Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
1. 5" Model 27
2. 3" Model 66
3. 4" Model 686




That group would surely get you down the road.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by gunner500
Thanks for the info EE and trplem, before you guys posted to my inquiry I got on Gunbroker and Gunsinternational and began looking around, I suppose the N frames are stronger then the K frames? plus, I called and old friend to discuss, he said he has a 586 no dash whatever that means, that he 'may' sell me. smile

I think a clean old N frame will be a better running mate for my 1955 45 acp.


If you can buy a 586 I would pursue that.



Well this has been a fun thread, found out I needed another revolver, just didn't know it before, will be on the lookout for a pre or m-27 pinned and recessed 5 or 6 inch barrel, that'll do it, and will sit well with a 45 cal model of 1955, which I think is also an N frame.

To add further confusion, gunshop buddy called this morning and said he found a 4" m-66 at the house, wants me to come by and look at it. crazy grin this chit never ends!


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Originally Posted by moosemike
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Nice thread, makes me want to get a S&W 357, for the guys in the know, what model would run period correct with a S&W model of 1955 45 ACP/Auto Rim? it's a five screw 6" blue revolver with target hammer and trigger.
The only 357 Smith made during that time period, that I'm aware of, was the N frame model 27. I don't remember what year the model 28 came out, but it's simply a more spartan version of same anyway. A 5" model 27 was always one of Skeeter's favorites. Do you have his book, Good Friends, Good Guns Good Whiskey? If not, I highly recommend it. I very much enjoyed Skeeter's stories. No offense to old Elmer, but much more so than his. My second choice for that era would be a 3 1/2" "FBI type" model, like the early agents carried. I've never been fortunate enough to own either barrel length. My personal model 27's that I can remember, were 6 and 8 3/8" barrels.

I trimmed the stable a few years back and got rid of my model 19 and GP 100's. Now the only 357's that I remember having are a model 28 in near new condition, that I inherited and my wife's Colt Magnum Carry (a Detective Special in 357 that Colt only made for a short time before one of the times they went under). I traded her 38 Special Detective Special on it so she'd have more versatility. It is wicked with 357's though.

I guess they used to convert model 20's (the 38-44 Heavy Duty) to 357, but I've heard they were not of the same steel as the model 27 and that this was not a good practice. I have no idea of the truth to this statement.


Thanks for the info EE and trplem, before you guys posted to my inquiry I got on Gunbroker and Gunsinternational and began looking around, I suppose the N frames are stronger then the K frames? plus, I called and old friend to discuss, he said he has a 586 no dash whatever that means, that he 'may' sell me. smile

I think a clean old N frame will be a better running mate for my 1955 45 acp.

Everything is stronger than K frames......


Thanks moosemike.


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I suppose this one.

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Used to be this one.

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Nice, I feel like I'm standing in a big wet cow pile on the top of a big slippery slope, this looks like it could be some expensive fun.


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This kind of fun is always expensive, gunner.


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Originally Posted by local_dirt
This kind of fun is always expensive, gunner.


I'm smelling what you're stepping in local dirt! smile


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Gun guys said:

900 on the funny looking little Colt SF VI.
800 on the blue no dash 4" 586 with rubber grips.
750 on the stainless no dash 4" 66 with rubber grips.

All out the door prices.


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Original boxes with them? That would make the 66 and 586 slam dunks.

The no-dash 66 makes it a little rare, as is the 586, assuming pristine condition.

Otherwise, a scosche high, IMHO, and in my area market.

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Don't know, I didn't ask about any boxes, did find it strange they all have rubber grips, I put a set of rubber grips on my model 1955 because gun guy said the wood grips were worth half the cost of the revolver, I said BS! he said, NO! educate yourself. laugh


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Don't know, I didn't ask about any boxes, did find it strange they all have rubber grips, I put a set of rubber grips on my model 1955 because gun guy said the wood grips were worth half the cost of the revolver, I said BS! he said, NO! educate yourself. laugh



There's some truth in that about the grips.

Original boxes add value. I always ask about the box. I'm still chasing one for one of my 66 snubs. The previous owner was supposed to bring it into the LGS where I bought the gun, but never did.


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