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I kinda like a 140 AccuBond over a Layne Simpson load of 7828 in the 7-STW. A 160 or better would be even better at distance......but I just LOVE watching the 140's go over the chrono !!!
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I get tired from work and doing math in the field is frustrating.
What about a 90 grain gold dot in a full power 270 win?
I'm curious what math you're figuring you'll need? Forget about converting inches at certain yardage to scope clicks, it can be a lot easier than all that. Set up your dope chart in mils, and use a mil/mil scope. Then you can just measure range, dial/hold to that value on the chart, and shoot. Are you getting more technical than that, or just making a simple solution more difficult per the traditional methods of inches per hundred yards and whatnot?
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Better stated might be "What caliber and bullet combo will get the farthest Point-blank impact on game?"
to answer that question look at some things like the 26Nosler
The military defines Long Range as anything over 600yds. Unfortunately there is no rifle capable shooting Longrange without holdover or dialing up. If there was that would take away half the fun!
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Used a .257 Wby with 80gr TTSXs before I got into longer ranges interest. For a MPBR rig it was pretty hard to beat. Just electrocuted stuff...
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Better stated might be "What caliber and bullet combo will get the farthest Point-blank impact on game?"
to answer that question look at some things like the 26Nosler Perfectly stated. MPBR of my 7-STW pet 140 grain load is 432 yards. Ironically, the pet 50 grain load for my .220 Swift MPBR is 431 yards.
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The only MPBR theory I subscribe to is: Multiple Pabst Blue Ribbons.
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The only MPBR theory I subscribe to is: Multiple Pabst Blue Ribbons. There's always that...………….. Yep !!
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The only MPBR theory I subscribe to is: Multiple Pabst Blue Ribbons. My God Josh I figured e d you drank good beer!!!
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Better stated might be "What caliber and bullet combo will get the farthest Point-blank impact on game?"
Good Luck
James That is what I meant... No combo makes 500yds assuming an 18 inch target circle?
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I used the .270 24' barrel pushing Barnes 110 TTSX at 3,500 feet per second. That burger was flat! Took a couple deer and a couple big pigs. The pigs were broadside shots and both exited. One pig weighed 212 and the other weighed 236. I shot a big buck from one side of the canyon to the other side as it was going up. The 110 entered behind the diaphragm and traveled 23" stopping at the skin in front of the sternum.
Since then I switched to Hammer bullets and play with a 6.5Coyle.
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No combo makes 500yds assuming an 18 inch target circle?
You could probably just about get there... with a near zero MOA rifle. Your 18" circle shrinks rapidly as the rifle's precision strays from perfect one hole groups.
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I am certainly not a sniper but an 18" target circle seems a tad large for shooting game animals, am I not understanding correctly?
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No combo makes 500yds assuming an 18 inch target circle?
An 18" target ??? Sure !!! My 7-STW load has a MPBR of about 540 yards on an 18" target. The 432 yard figure I gave above is for a more realistic, hunting scenario, target of 10".
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The 120 grain Nosler BT at 3325 out of a .280AI is pretty darn flat as is a .270 WBY with the 110 Accubond at 3600 + fps.
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You could always go custom and try a 257 Allen Magnum, he claims 500 feet more velocity than a 257 Weatherby. That should have a pretty decent MPBR. http://www.apsrifles.com/Allen_Magnum_Wildcats.html
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There is no right or wrong target diameter to use when figuring MPBR, but I prefer a diameter of 6". Drift is ore of a concern for me than drop - by a wide margin. I MPBR zero for a 6" target at 7000 ft altitude because we hunt from 5000 to 9000.
Just worked up a .270 Win/150g LRAB load for Daughter #1, 2910fps. MPBR is just short of 300, 2000fps mark is 8000 yards, 1500fpe mark is about 685 yards. Laser enough for her.
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Better stated might be "What caliber and bullet combo will get the farthest Point-blank impact on game?"
Good Luck
James That is what I meant... No combo makes 500yds assuming an 18 inch target circle? Lots of cartridges make 500 yards with an 18" MPBR. Think of an MPBR zero as shooting down a pipe the diameter of the target, with the bullet never touching the walls of the pipe. My 16.1" barreled .308 with 150g BT @ 2681fps easily reaches past 550 yards for an 18" MPBR. That would be a ridiculous way to zero it, though, as it would be 18" low at the muzzle. My preference is a MPBR zero for a 6" diameter target, meaning the bullet is never more than 3" above or below line of sight. For most of my rifles that puts the bullet about 2.5"-2.8" high at 100. We use scopes with drop-compensating reticles and we check them at the range out to 600 yards. Past 350 yards we tend to use the reticles for holdover.
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Better stated might be "What caliber and bullet combo will get the farthest Point-blank impact on game?"
Good Luck
James That is what I meant... No combo makes 500yds assuming an 18 inch target circle? Lots of cartridges make 500 yards with an 18" MPBR. Think of an MPBR zero as shooting down a pie the diameter of the target, with the bullet never touching the walls of the pipe. My 16.1" barreled .308 with 150g BT @ 2681fps easily reaches past 550 yards for an 18" MPBR. That would be a ridiculous was to zero it, though, as it would be 18" low at the muzzle. My preference is a MPBR zero for a 6" diameter target, meaning the bullet is never more than 3" above or below line of sight. For most of my rifles that puts the bullet about 2.5"-2.8" high at 100. We use scopes with drop-compensating reticles and we check the at the range out to 600 yards. Past 350 yards we tend to use the reticles for holdover. That makes a lot more sense to me. mike r
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My 16.1" barreled .308 with 150g BT @ 2681fps easily reaches past 550 yards for an 18" MPBR.
Not to stir the schite pot, but...………………...a rough calculation gives your rig a MPBR of about 410 yards on an 18" target, rather than somewhere beyond 550 yards.
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