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There is a lot of "Sierra hate" on this site, but I've not had problems when they've been sensibly applied. For years my father used a 150 Sierra on top of 52 grains of 4064 as his 30-06 deer load. One shot, one kill, no fuss. Yep, Sierras work just like the others. Bout all I used til I discovered the “campfire”.
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I had been shooting 140 grain Partitions for years in my push feed Model 70 Featherweight 7X57. Recently changed to Barnes 120 grain TSX. They shoot lights out with IMR 4350. I lucked on 6 boxes a couple years ago on a clearance and got them for $19.00 a box. They'll last me a LOOOOONG time.
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130g Speer BTSP 42g of IMR 4895 Rem case Rem 9 1/2 3000 fps Favorite load for Rem 700's
Next up would be the 150g Nosler accubond, they love to jump to the lands
160g Sierra btsp max load of Win 760
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REvans1957, ever think that there is a reason that all those TSX's were on the clearance shelf? The only deer that I've ever lost in over 50 years took a 7mm-08 TSX and ran away and hid. The year before a quarter size perfect hole through both lungs instead of the lung mush I normally see should have enlightened me, but it didn't. A tidy wound channel is how I've seen them described. I want a big leaky one.
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Why not? it'll handle it. I think that's a fine choice. I thought he was talking about the 154gr RN. Spite points would be great. 1 of the finer points of living in backwater places like SD is that when bullet companies discontinue neat stuff like 154 RN and 100 gr .243 SP we get the word, but still have enough time to run around to gunshops and gun shows to score all we can. The supplies of these types of goods usually lasts a little longer than in heavily populated places. Naturally in this situation you need iniative and the cash to secure for your own needs. 139 gr SP Hornady flatbase and 140 NPT's are the best f the rest, for use at real world hunting ranges. MB
" Cheapest velocity in the world comes from a long barrel and I sure do like them. MB "
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Its hard to narrow down to one type of bullet unless you have a typical kill range as impact velocities vary. This why all bullet makers now try to advocate one bullet for all ranges (i.e., ELD-X, AccuBond). Over the years I have killed several antelope and mule deer with 140 gr ballistic tips (BT) from a 7mm Rem Mag (3,275 fps), but all have been long shots (typically +325 yards) thereby reducing impact velocity with that bullet. Have used 308 Win 165 gr SST on whitetails as well, most shot inside 225 yards. Result, very dead animals. With 7-08 and 7x57 the 140 gr BT works even better at speeds in the 2,850 fps range at 300 yards or so. At long distance the A-Max provides great performance similar to the BT on antelope and deer. Thin jacketed bullet at 300-400 yard impact is total devastation on antelope and deer. Woods hunting (100-200 yds) would require a soft, less frangible bullet and I would use more weight, Core-Lokt, Hawk, Horn-SP Interlock. Deer are pretty much cream puffs when it comes to bullet use. A Nosler PT, Swift A-Frame, Barnes TTSX or other durable, deep penetrating pass through bullets are not really needed, but they work. Regarding those types, have used on elk and would use on moose and bear. Both Horn-SST in 154 gr and Swift Sciracco 150 gr would work well at mid to longer ranges (200-400 yds) in a 7mm. Today I would probably try the 150 ELD-X launched at 2,750 fps or so and see if it holds up as advertised for all ranges.
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Windfall, my guess is that so many TSXs were available because they didn't have the little plastic tip thingy on them. Seems everyone wants a poly tip or gummy tip or "whatever tip". I've killed too many animals with TSXs and the old original X bullets to not have faith in them. I've never lost an animal hit with a Barnes all copper bullet.
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I was in on the Barns X testing phase, never had so much trouble with zero expansion in my life. The Next version the TSX was a bit better but I would run a 160 Gameking before I will ever run another barnes mono bullet. Spent too much money on crappy bullet performance.
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140 Partition started at 2880. I’ve kilt a mess of deer with them. P Sweeet!!!
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In my 7mm-08's I like either:
46.5 Grains RL19 under the Berger 150 Grain Classic Hunter or alternatively the Nosler 150 Grain .LR AccuBond. Both yield velocities in the low 2700 FPS range, and sub-MOA accuracy. COAL is 2.835"
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Someone spare me 7 pages of reading. Was there any love for the 175 gr. Hornady SP with the 7x57?
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Someone spare me 7 pages of reading. Was there any love for the 175 gr. Hornady SP with the 7x57? There's always some love for the 175 grain bullet in a .284 / 7-mm I like it a lot. Works great in my 7-mm Rem. Mag. Not sure, if I ever used it in a 7-08 I like all the bullets talked about in this thread, as I'm not a hater. It needs to dry up some, so I can get out and do some shooting.
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Someone spare me 7 pages of reading. Was there any love for the 175 gr. Hornady SP with the 7x57? I can tell you that all of my rifles shoot the 175-grain Hornady round nose soft point very, very well.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
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Youper, if the 175 grain Hornady SP is anything like a 175 grain Remingtom Core-Lokt, using that factory load on the first whitetail that I ever killed with my 7mm RM was nearly enough to make me quit deer hunting. It was like the most pathetic bullet performance that I have ever seen on a deer. The rifle wouldn't eject the empty and the deer died from a double lung shot, but that bullet did not expand one iota and just zipped right through. Read the 7 pages and pick something in the 140-150 grain range.
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150gr Nosler Ballistic Tip.
~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~ As Bob Hagel would say"You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong."Good words of wisdom...............
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Had many one shot DRT with the old Hornady 154gr spire point in the 7mm-08. Think they dropped that from their line. Can’t recall the charge weight or IMR 4064 but it was super accurate in the model 700
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Had many one shot DRT with the old Hornady 154gr spire point in the 7mm-08. Think they dropped that from their line. Can’t recall the charge weight or IMR 4064 but it was super accurate in the model 700 It's still listed on their website.
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I have used the 140 Nosler Ballistic tip and the 120 Barnes. Both are great!
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Had many one shot DRT with the old Hornady 154gr spire point in the 7mm-08. Think they dropped that from their line. Can’t recall the charge weight or IMR 4064 but it was super accurate in the model 700 It's still listed on their website. The 154gr round nose along with the 175gn round nose were discontinued.
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They are all game bullets which is why they all work. I am surprised that anyone is surprised.. How the hell does anyone pick a bad in bullet in 7mm?
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