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Originally Posted by Bristoe
I used to really be down on Lincoln because of the war between the states. He stomped all over the Constitution and he decreed that a state which voluntarily joined the union couldn't voluntarily leave the union.

But once you dig into the motivations of Lincoln, it's difficult not to have a bit of sympathy for his reasoning.

Lincoln didn't wage war on the south to end slavery. He waged war on the south in order to end an institution that had dumped vast numbers of Africans into America's western european society.

The transcripts of the Lincoln/Douglas debates explains Lincoln better than anything else.

Lincoln wanted slavery abolished and he wanted the slaves sent back to Africa where they belonged,...and out of *here*.

He was right.

Slavery had corrupted the demographic fabric of America,...and you can see the long term result of it today.

If John Wilkes Booth hadn't killed him, America would be a very different place today,...and Liberia would be much more populated.

Well said.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
I used to really be down on Lincoln because of the war between the states. He stomped all over the Constitution and he decreed that a state which voluntarily joined the union couldn't voluntarily leave the union.

But once you dig into the motivations of Lincoln, it's difficult not to have a bit of sympathy for his reasoning.

Lincoln didn't wage war on the south to end slavery. He waged war on the south in order to end an institution that had dumped vast numbers of Africans into America's western european society.

The transcripts of the Lincoln/Douglas debates explains Lincoln better than anything else.

Lincoln wanted slavery abolished and he wanted the slaves sent back to Africa where they belonged,...and out of *here*.

He was right.

Slavery had corrupted the demographic fabric of America,...and you can see the long term result of it today.

If John Wilkes Booth hadn't killed him, America would be a very different place today,...and Liberia would be much more populated.


Truth.


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Lincoln favored the idea of Liberian colonization.

But Lincoln's arguments in the debates plainly stated that colonization was not a practical idea.

Lincoln argued that the end result should be two levels of American society, with the white man as the superior, but a black man able to keep all of the fruits of his labors.

It is possible that if Lincoln had been the tyrannical despot after the war that he had been before and during, there could have been recolonization to Liberia.

But, short of that it wasn't going to happen, because the government actually had a budget that it lived by in those days.

In hindsight, the argument is proved that sendin the slaves back to Liberia would have been waaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper, you couldn't have won that argument at the time.

Because the civil war era American couldn't imagine the perversions of government welfare to come.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
Lincoln favored the idea of Liberian colonization.

But Lincoln's arguments in the debates plainly stated that colonization was not a practical idea.

Lincoln argued that the end result should be two levels of American society, with the white man as the superior, but a black man able to keep all of the fruits of his labors.

It is possible that if Lincoln had been the tyrannical despot after the war that he had been before and during, there could have been recolonization to Liberia.

But, short of that it wasn't going to happen, because the government actually had a budget that it lived by in those days.

In hindsight, the argument is proved that sendin the slaves back to Liberia would have been waaaaaaaaaaaaay cheaper, you couldn't have won that argument at the time.

Because the civil war era American couldn't imagine the perversions of government welfare to come.


Well,...there's always an argument to everything. But Lincoln was very plain about his plans to recolonize slaves back to Africa,...and even to South America.

In fact,..in 1862 Congress authorized $600,000 to send slaves back to Africa. ($15,000,000 in today's money)

It was much more than just a casual discussion. 15,000 slaves had been sent back to Africa prior to the Civil War.

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It's hard to bracket Lincoln, because the SOB was such a politician that he took every side of every argument surrounding the slavery issue.

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Originally Posted by Fubarski
It's hard to bracket Lincoln, because the SOB was such a politician that he took every side of every argument surrounding the slavery issue.



The US had a financial system before Lincoln that was the envy of the world and had catapulted the young nation into extreme wealth and subsequently adooted by Switzerland .

He destroyed that system for the one we have now and it leads to self destruction as we are witnessing. Sorry i cant remember the terms for each system


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Good thing we Horatio Deflave on the case.. also what happened to the OP?




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Bumpola, hoping the OP can come on and fill in the details.


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SHE GOIN’ FOR DA FONE!!!!


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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I don't like black people...that means I'm enjoying this schit.

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
I don't like black people...that means I'm enjoying this schit.


Actually I stole that line from 48 Hours. Eddie Murphy said it, about white people.😀

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Originally Posted by deflave
SHE GOIN’ FOR DA FONE!!!!


We're past due for chapter 2. I'm hoping hard we get the 'revenge is MINE!' blow-by-blow follow-up post. Something like this, maybe? "You bounced your Heineken off my old lady's dome when she went for the phone and done knocked her out cold! All she wanted was to insult y'all by asking you tp settler the tab mid-meal. Then, you and your two buddies who ran up the tab--and the three juveniles waiting patiently in the Hyundai outside drinking Cherry Cokes with sad faces-- made good y'alls escape, just in the nick of time. But I found you! Who's thugged OUT now, yo?


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Damn that was excellent.

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Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Damn that was excellent.


Yes

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Awful thread. If this was 1944 it's easy enough to guess which side most of you would be on.

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Damn that was excellent.


Yes


LOL dudes, that was faker than aerosol cheese. grin


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