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Originally Posted by saddlesore
We always cut an X in the tip.Worked about the same

.......Same here... Learned that one from some old timers back in the 1960's. That's what they did back in the pre-WWII days.

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Originally Posted by shrapnel
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Thats a pretty large hp.

I am not happy with the large hole HPs Federal started putting in their 22 mag ammo several years ago. They seem to lose accuracy and often put keyholes in paper at over 100 yds out of my Win 9422mag, Shrap.
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100 yards? I have a Hornet for those kind of shots...


You did notice i said 22 Mag.


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Originally Posted by rickt300
The luckiest shot I have ever seen made was with an old Remington pump and a 22 Long, first try and it was a miracle!

i shot a dove out of the air at about 100 yds. can't get much luckier than that !
don't have any idea if it was a hollow-point !

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I bet after drilling out that .22 Long, they will zip right along! wink


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Originally Posted by rockinbbar
I bet after drilling out that .22 Long, they will zip right along! wink


Agreed.....It's certainly worth a try since HP Longs aren't available.

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Originally Posted by colorado bob
What's the advantage? The long rifle HP that I buy for @ $20 a brick seems to kill prairie dogs just fine.



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Ah Hah! laugh

This proves that people snowed in for a while go stir-crazy. crazy crazy











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BTW, have a new boat for us to try when the snow melts and the fish get hot.


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Originally Posted by luv2safari
Ah Hah! laugh

This proves that people snowed in for a while go stir-crazy. crazy crazy











wink





BTW, have a new boat for us to try when the snow melts and the fish get hot.



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Haven't seen .22 Longs on the shelf since the early 70s and they were scarce then..

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technology continues to advance along. we humans mark the changes, and adapt as we are interested.

a flattened .22 rf tip could hit pretty hard. i think federal markets them as a small game ammo.

i have shot longs, but they cost as much as the long rifles, so i was forced to choose.


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Those look good.
Hunting season closed in TN today.

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Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by luv2safari
Ah Hah! laugh

This proves that people snowed in for a while go stir-crazy. crazy crazy











wink





BTW, have a new boat for us to try when the snow melts and the fish get hot.



July???


If then... Talked to Gary MacDonald at MacDonald's Marina today about pulling my boat out. He just laughed and said "fine, if you can find the ramp". It was still snowing.


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off-topic, but i really don't know why we have a system of hunting seasons anymore?

i mean, most folks no longer hunt, and those that do don't eat what they shoot.

pay some license fees to the gov't, and follow the rules i reckon.

long .22 is good, looks like the market has moved to .22LR?


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I had Paco Kelly's version some years back, believe it got loaned out and not returned. Anyhow, we used to shoot gophers every weekend, there seemed to be an endless supply. I was never real impressed with standard hp .22 ammo, a good percentage of the gophers made it back down the hole. After using the Paco Kelly tool, the ammo was much more effective. The version I had came with two rods, one for hollowpointing a d one for doing a wide dished point. Both worked well, I used the HP rod most as it also widened the nose while making a wide deep hollowpoint. Far fewer runner with those bullets, wish I still had it....if we still had gophers to shoot I'd get another.

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Originally Posted by xxclaro
I had Paco Kelly's version some years back, believe it got loaned out and not returned. Anyhow, we used to shoot gophers every weekend, there seemed to be an endless supply. I was never real impressed with standard hp .22 ammo, a good percentage of the gophers made it back down the hole. After using the Paco Kelly tool, the ammo was much more effective. The version I had came with two rods, one for hollowpointing a d one for doing a wide dished point. Both worked well, I used the HP rod most as it also widened the nose while making a wide deep hollowpoint. Far fewer runner with those bullets, wish I still had it....if we still had gophers to shoot I'd get another.



I looked at that tool, but to pound on the bottom to drive the hollow point into the bullet didn’t seem very safe. This die, although it isn’t cheap, does work easy and quickly. I need to get some of these shot to see just how well they work...


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Looks bad azz!

I like RN rimfire ammo over HP though. Have seen better accuracy and the lead is usually soft enough to expand easily. My experience at least.


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I looked at the .22 longs that I have, some are pretty old and some are newer, but none had a hollow point. I might have more upstairs in my main collection.

Shrapnel, Do you know if they EVER made HP .22 longs to your knowledge?


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Originally Posted by AcesNeights
I looked at the .22 longs that I have, some are pretty old and some are newer, but none had a hollow point. I might have more upstairs in my main collection.

Shrapnel, Do you know if they EVER made HP .22 longs to your knowledge?



If they did, I never saw any. When I was a kid, I had a paper route and all my money went into 22 ammunition. Longs were cheaper than long rifles so we always bought 22 longs. Not only that, but you could get more rounds into a tube magazine with longs...


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
Originally Posted by xxclaro
I had Paco Kelly's version some years back, believe it got loaned out and not returned. Anyhow, we used to shoot gophers every weekend, there seemed to be an endless supply. I was never real impressed with standard hp .22 ammo, a good percentage of the gophers made it back down the hole. After using the Paco Kelly tool, the ammo was much more effective. The version I had came with two rods, one for hollowpointing a d one for doing a wide dished point. Both worked well, I used the HP rod most as it also widened the nose while making a wide deep hollowpoint. Far fewer runner with those bullets, wish I still had it....if we still had gophers to shoot I'd get another.



I looked at that tool, but to pound on the bottom to drive the hollow point into the bullet didn’t seem very safe. This die, although it isn’t cheap, does work easy and quickly. I need to get some of these shot to see just how well they work...


Yeah I'll admit it made me a bit nervous, but I was younger then. I did thousands of rounds with it, flattened some out so much I had load them singly by hand, and somehow managed to never touch one off. The system you have looks WAY better, if the gophers ever make a comeback I'd invest in that.
I did use the real wide flat nose I made on some beavers too, might have just been my imagination but I sure felt like they worked much better than they did out of the box.

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AcesNeights;
Good evening to you sir, I hope that the winter has abated somewhat in your part of the world and this finds you and yours well tonight.

I see that I am not the only 'Fire member who collects rimfire ammo - though perhaps there's not a whole lot more of us with what might be a somewhat unique ailment? wink

In particular I try to find Canuck made ammo and also some from different lands like Argentina or South Africa.

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I too would have to go look to see if I've got any HP Longs, somehow I want to say I don't actually.

Up here across the medicine line it's been years, likely decades really, since I've run across longs in a store - oh other than CB Longs which I picked up maybe 20 - 25 years back.

Also to the OP that's a really cool setup shrapnel, I'd likely get one if I found one up here, just to see what happens if nothing else. cool

All the best to you all as we hopefully head sooner than later into warmer weather.

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