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Said I never had much use for one. Didn't say I didn't know how to use it..
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I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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How many here have one of the promotion cartridges for it, that the NRA put out? I do. miles
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Long time back the fella holding the lease for our hunt club told me my .30-30 was inadequate and I should get a 7mm mag like his. Came within inches of buying a Quigley just to fug with his head.
Few years back I picked up a Highwall chambered for the .45 Quigley Short. It'll do....
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Takes a man's man to handle 45-100+'s, so I settled on a 45-90 Long Range Express. Weighs about 15 lbs and I hope to nail an elk with it some day.
Yes, Throw that in the dirt and there would be Hell to pay. Probably the finest commercial production company in the US. The English gun makers might be able to match their fit and finish. Expensive, but damned well worth it, they are units that will appreciate.
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How many here have one of the promotion cartridges for it, that the NRA put out? I do. miles Don't have any of the promotional cartridges, but do have about 300 currently loaded and ready to roll for the 2 45-110's I shoot.
the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com
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They prolly had a Pedersoli to throw down and a Shiloh to shoot.
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I'm feeling the lure. .45-120..........send prayers. Where can I find a Hindenburg mould?
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Actually it was a real Shiloh. Selleck came here to Montana to visit the Shiloh plant and spend some time with Mike Venturino to become more familiar with a Sharps rifle. They made 3 rifles, one to shoot and film, one to abuse and a third for a spare and close up filming. Mike spent a day with Selleck and made some minor changes in the movie. In the scene where they were chasing the Aboriginies over the cliff, the script called for Quigley to rein his horse to a halt and shoot from his horse. Mike informed them, that wasn’t a good way to shoot accurately, and he would be better advised to get off his horse and use a rest. In the movie you will see Quigley dismount and shoot over a rock. The scene where Quigley is at the store toward the end of the movie, he is talking to the shop owner about bullets to use in his experimental rifle “the Sharps” and what crossover from British bullets would suit the gun Quigley was shooting. Mike knew what the Brits had that would work in Quigley’s gun and he cast those bullets to reload his cartridges, At the end of the movie, when Quigley was standing in the corral holding his rifle, you will see he has the butt on the toe of his boot. During the time Selleck spent with Mike on the range, he noticed Mike would rest the butt of his rifle on his boot and asked why he did that. Mike told him that it will protect the buttplate from getting scratched or dirty and won’t transfer debris to his shoulder when he would continue firing the rifle. Just som Quigley trivia I doubt anyone would know...
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I don't know what a Hindenburg mold is but the best adjustable .442" paper patch bullet mold for patching to bore diameter out there is made by KAL Tool. They cost over $200 plus handles. Mine will make it's max size at 625 grs or so 1 in 20 tin to lead. With the 2 7/8" case (45-110) those load to right at 4.5". Made some at 1 in 16 at 566 grs for my brother and his 45-120 (3 .25")case they loaded out at 4.9". Some people don't understand it... but there is a certain charm in a loaded cartridge that hangs over both sides of your palm when you hold it. MB
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Bob, a "Hindenburg" in context of Quigley guns looks a lot like the pic below. Your 625 grainer would qualify. If you don't mind, the .442" diameter seems a bit smallish to me. What's your finished diameter when patched? Asking because I have minimal experience with patching for BP guns and what I've done used cross strip patches so the dims were quite a bit tighter. Wrapped patches that I've done were for smokeless and for a .44 Mag. Bullet is .422 and patched to .430" final w/9# onion skin.
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Dan knowing that you are an accuracy seeker, if the gun happens to be a Shiloh or recent C Sharps, you'll have a much more harmonious outcome with a .446 bullet wrapped in 7 or 8 lb paper.
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Thanks.....sounds like what I was thinking and I'll make a note.
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If it's a Pedersoli or one of the older Shiloh or C Sharps, with the generously sized chambers or throats, then going with something .450 diameter before patching may be the best bet. As to Zepher sized bullets, the barrel twist will determine the length the gun will handle if you go to shooting past 200 yards. Way back in the late 70's early 80's we had decent results in a 3 1/4 shooting the 550 grain patched bullet RCBS sells, but nothing coming close the accuracy that folks serious about paper patching today come up with.
the most expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com
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