|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,990
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,990 |
This chapter makes a lot of sense to me and is how I see it. Romans chapter 6
“What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.
Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with him. We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him. For the death he died he died to sin, once for all, but the life he lives he lives to God. So you also must consider yourselves dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, to make you obey its passions. Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness. For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness. I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification. For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 6:1-6, 8-23 ESV https://www.bible.com/59/rom.6.1-6,8-23.esv
“No one in hell can ever say I went to Christ and He rejected me.
C.H. Spurgeon
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10 |
Whether you swear or murder, sin is sin. The guy who swears, and other wise leads a good life, is in no way morally equivalent to this guy: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...me-things-just-fill-you-with-rage#UNREAD
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 23,693 Likes: 3
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 23,693 Likes: 3 |
Whether you swear or murder, sin is sin. Maybe so, but some sin is a lot more fun than other sin.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,633 Likes: 72
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,633 Likes: 72 |
Fireball is too drunk to type out Bible verse right now.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10 |
I'd love to see this worthless POS get hit by a bus I'd sure feel sorry for the bus driver.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,948 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,948 Likes: 2 |
I am and I don’t see the freedom in living the way some do here. As a Christian, we have to be an example of how to live our lives and refrain from pointing fingers (judging) others.
There are 2 rules to success:
1. Never tell everything that you know.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19 |
I thought drinking and bashing others were facets of Christianity? And good luck bashing someone without swear words. I've been effectively swearing at people since at least third grade. The sins of the father will be visited on the sons through the (humm) 3rd or 4th generation. Doesnt matter. Im just the second gen. Jesus didnt cuss when he whipped the money changers out of the sinnygog, but i aint Jesus. In fact, i may not even be a Christian but i believe in Jesus Christ.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 61,320 Likes: 34
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 61,320 Likes: 34 |
These premises insured by a Sheltie in Training ,--- and Cooey.o "May the Good Lord take a likin' to you"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 12,251 Likes: 14
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 12,251 Likes: 14 |
I can’t help but notice that a good amount of Christians here who quote Scripture and talk of God, as if they know Him in certain Christian/Bible related threads, then in other threads, they’ll talk about drinking, bashing others, cussing like a sailor etc. Being a Christian doesn’t mean that you are forgiven and then can go and act the fool once you’ve asked for forgiveness. I’ve been there before and there comes a time that you must get off of the fence. Just an observation Has been an issue for the past 2000 years. Paul wrote about it in Romans. Not condoning it. Just part of the human condition...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19 |
I told a cop that I was Jewish one time.
He had me for DUI and I said that we Jews often partake in wine at dinner time.
The things you come up with at 15 eh? Did the Lord save your lying ass?
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10 |
I can’t help but notice that a good amount of Christians here who quote Scripture and talk of God, as if they know Him in certain Christian/Bible related threads, then in other threads, they’ll talk about drinking, bashing others, cussing like a sailor etc. Being a Christian doesn’t mean that you are forgiven and then can go and act the fool once you’ve asked for forgiveness. I’ve been there before and there comes a time that you must get off of the fence. Just an observation Has been an issue for the past 2000 years. Paul wrote about it in Romans. Not condoning it. Just part of the human condition... Just one more reason Christianity is so fractionated, Grace vs. Deeds.
Last edited by antelope_sniper; 03/07/19.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 60,944 Likes: 70
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 60,944 Likes: 70 |
I am MAGA.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,335
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,335 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,990
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,990 |
I am and I don’t see the freedom in living the way some do here. As a Christian, we have to be an example of how to live our lives and refrain from pointing fingers (judging) others. I believe you are half right
“No one in hell can ever say I went to Christ and He rejected me.
C.H. Spurgeon
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19 |
I can’t help but notice that a good amount of Christians here who quote Scripture and talk of God, as if they know Him in certain Christian/Bible related threads, then in other threads, they’ll talk about drinking, bashing others, cussing like a sailor etc. Being a Christian doesn’t mean that you are forgiven and then can go and act the fool once you’ve asked for forgiveness. I’ve been there before and there comes a time that you must get off of the fence. Just an observation Im trying to do better. You did right by reminding us of our sin.
Last edited by jaguartx; 03/07/19.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,955 Likes: 3
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20,955 Likes: 3 |
Paul said, “Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but such as is edification for the moment.”
Moses said, “The Lord will not leave him unpunished that takes His name in vain.”
Certainly a true disciple of Christ abides by these tenets with no question.
By the way, in case you missed it, Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,990
Campfire Tracker
|
OP
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,990 |
We should be able to judge other Christians if they are in the wrong, And that is who I’m talking about.
“No one in hell can ever say I went to Christ and He rejected me.
C.H. Spurgeon
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 31,222 Likes: 10 |
I can’t help but notice that a good amount of Christians here who quote Scripture and talk of God, as if they know Him in certain Christian/Bible related threads, then in other threads, they’ll talk about drinking, bashing others, cussing like a sailor etc. Being a Christian doesn’t mean that you are forgiven and then can go and act the fool once you’ve asked for forgiveness. I’ve been there before and there comes a time that you must get off of the fence. Just an observation Im trying to do better, That's all we can ask. Perfection is not possible. I'm satisfied with the man who continues to make progress.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19
Campfire Oracle
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 96,094 Likes: 19 |
I can’t help but notice that a good amount of Christians here who quote Scripture and talk of God, as if they know Him in certain Christian/Bible related threads, then in other threads, they’ll talk about drinking, bashing others, cussing like a sailor etc. Being a Christian doesn’t mean that you are forgiven and then can go and act the fool once you’ve asked for forgiveness. I’ve been there before and there comes a time that you must get off of the fence. Just an observation Has been an issue for the past 2000 years. Paul wrote about it in Romans. Not condoning it. Just part of the human condition... Just one more reason Christianity is so fractionated, Grace vs. Deeds. This^^^. God bless you, AS, as your needs may be.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,948 Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 15,948 Likes: 2 |
I am and I don’t see the freedom in living the way some do here. As a Christian, we have to be an example of how to live our lives and refrain from pointing fingers (judging) others. I believe you are half right Please tell me what I left out.
There are 2 rules to success:
1. Never tell everything that you know.
|
|
|
|
195 members (257_X_50, 35WhelenNut, 450yukon, 10gaugemag, 338reddog, 2ndwind, 27 invisible),
2,891
guests, and
974
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,194,643
Posts18,533,634
Members74,041
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|