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It'd be the one or other of the Remington most commonly here too. The 760, especially in .35 Whelen, seems popular for sambar, and there's been a good number of 7615s sold here too. The odd Browning BPR, IMI Timberwolf, Colt Lightning clones, Verney-Carron and some others, less common.

There are lots of pump-action .22s too of course, from Winchester, Remington, Browning, Rossi and a lot of others.

Brian Pearce had a good 444 article published, November 2018. Good stuff!

Yeah, let's resurrect the .444. The .44 long needs some TLC

Thank You, I had forgotten about the BPR.

Growing up on Rem 870 shotguns the 7600 etc. was a NATURAL transition to rifles.

Thnx Again

Jerry

Some more comments:

While I love lever-action rifles (especially older ones) my experience is they're not any faster in repeat fire than a bolt-action, as long as the shooter using a bolt rifle knows how to run one. Pumps can be a LOT faster than either--in fact even faster than semiautos, though again, if the shooter really knows how to run one.

If somebody can tell me exactly what advantages the .444 has over the .45-70 in a lever-action, especially for a handloaders, I could be interested in doing an article on it. So far nobody has.

There's another factor as well: I often end up doing articles on certain rifles due to running across an interesting used rifle--which is exactly how I acquired my ancient .25-35 Winchester 1894, and take-down .33 WCF 1886. So far I haven't run across an interesting used .444. In fact I can't remember ever running across any used .444, which may be related to my above comment.

I prefer to shoulder my rifle or carbine on my left side. I am right handed. I also like to tie spare shirts around my waist, with a fanny pack.

The bolt knob likes to get caught in the [bleep] around my fat azzed waist. Levers don't do that. Eventually I am gonna get butterknife bolt knobs that are flush on the bolt actions I am gonna use to see if that helps.

The only thing I can possibly think about a triple 4 over a 45/70 is they are supposed to have more material in the receiver so they are slightly stronger. But it would seem one would need a Ballard rifeling in the 444 to have it be " superior " or even " comparable " to the 45/70.

Hornady is making 307 brass again, seems quite good.

How does the 307 win compare to the 308 mx?

Put them both in a bag and shake it up and they'll both fall out the same hole.

Which, of course, is impossible.

I have a relative who is Blackfeet and quite a student of historic firearms. He has referred to Winchester lever guns as "The AK-47 for Indians." That says a lot!
There is a nice 1895 Marlin somebody might get into cheap at https://www.gunbroker.com/item/802178104

This pretty much covers it.

The 20” 307 Winchester and the 22” 308 Marlin Express pretty well equal each other.

Using Alliant Reloder 15 It is easy to push the 150-grain Speer 2,700 fps.
The 170-grain Speer bullet will nudge 2,550 in either the 20” .307 Winchester or the 22” .308 Marlin Express using Reloder 15.

In todays world the .307 Winchester is obsolete. If you have one they are pretty easy to feed and it is a good rifle.

The .308 Marlin Express is slightly easier to feed and will perhaps, be back in production one day.
I cannot imagine how Remington will work with the 308MX rifle. The early Marlin is a well put together rifle and quite accurate with factory ammunition.
The handloader has to work to equal the accuracy of the factory .308 Marlin Express ammunition.
Marlin took a bit of extra care in the fitting of the vertical locking bolt to the notch in the sliding bolt. This seems to have contributed to the fine accuracy delivered by the rifle. Prior to published load data coming out for the .308ME we were loading in to equal to .307 Winchester and not thinking much about it. When published load data appeared for the .308ME we were surprised to see the reduced pressure loads. Thank goodness for the 22" barrel which helps bring the velocity up to equal the .307 Winchester.

The advantage of the 444 over the .45-70 is trajectory. With the Hornady 265 gr. at 2200 fps it is nearly identical to the 170 gr. .30-30 at 2100 fps. That doesn't sound great, but is better than the .45-70.

Here's what I posted: "If somebody can tell me exactly what advantages the .444 has over the .45-70 in a lever-action, especially for a handloader.....

Please explain what advantage a .444 has over a modern .45-70 lever handloaded with a 300-grain at 2200+--the velocity listed in Hodgdon's data, which is usually pretty conservative.

Then there's the fact that 45-70 ammo, of whatever type, is far more available than .444.

Plus, I know from actual experience that a "traditional" .45-70 load (whether factory or handloaded) with a bullet in the 400-grain range will take game beyond 200 yards--if the hunter knows what they're doing, even with an 1884 Springfield trapdoor.

Heck, I don't know for sure, but, it seems there is a up tick in lever rifle purchases, especially in handgun calibers. Maybe they're just more fun to shoot[me], maybe it's another current fad with some shooters, or, shooters just plain like 'em. As for me, I no longer hunt "big game", deer elk. So, I bought a couple handgun lever rifles just to shoot and have fun with. Enjoying rifles and shooting. Nothing wrong with that. My bolt rifles would shoot further, if needed, probably more accurate; but, more fun? No way.

At the gun show in Albany Oregon.

They were pretty proud of the Remlins and Henerys NIB.

Me thinks like mule deer said. Buy what you can afford!

Yeah, pistol caliber leverguns are about the epitome of fun.

Sounds like the beginning of article....keep going , the 45/70 is such a strange and interesting old round.

I know this for sure, if I go to the range and seated beside me are frustrated bolt action rifle shooters , I pull out a levergun and they smile a little . Oh....what do we have here! Leverguns are fun, including the big bores.

Mule Deer,
Two questions for you ;
1. Have you read" From Elves to Elephants" by Paco Kelly? If not, here is a link to it:
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/4570_leverguns.htm

2. Have you written articles on the .405 Winchester? If so, where can I locate one?