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Viet mother ph u king nam!!!! Give me my m14, mother ph ucking 1911! Yee phu cking haw!

Well I found the fix for mine and there won't be another. Like they say, first time shame on you Ruger, second time shame on me. It should not be the buyers job to fix the flaws of a rifle that has been produced this long and known to have issues. For every Remington bashing that goes on there is form post on how to make the Mini shoot. Really? I bet Harley Davidson would be out of business if AMF was still making them. So what makes the Mini acceptable to the public?

It's Ruger.

Old man Bill was a grouchy bastard that built guns his way.

That's a good thing if you are a fussy perfectionist.
Not so much when your barrel suppliers suck.
And you continue to use them for a decade.
Or your triggers suck.

And your answer to the accuracy and trigger complaints is,
"We build good hunting rifles, not target guns".

Look at the chamber dimensions of their 45 Colt revolvers.
All screwed up, and inconsistent.
The only good thing is the throats are too tight.
That's fixable, and then they are consistent.
They have made them that way for 40 years.
People have complained for 40 years.

Why in thee hell would you do that.
If my name was on the barrel, I would want to be proud of it.
Not because my name was there.
But because people knew my name meant it was done right.

Who has been churning out flawless DA 45LC's and perfect bolt action rifles in the past three decades?

DealingSuck TRIES.

Hint.

Laughing!.................

Oh, I agree - it should not be the buyer's job to fix anything that needs fixing. But the Mini doesn't generally have "issues" - it has an issue, and that is accuracy.....as compared to more accurate carbines. This is only an issue though for people with an unreasonable expectation of the design. It's a fast-handling and simple operating carbine, that fills the niche left vacant by the dearth of M1 Carbines (or in the current case, the dearth of affordable M1 carbines that function). That is not to imply that some other less expensive MSR in carbine form is not more accurate - but for many people it is more accurate than necessary for the intended use...as an intermediate range firearm. The ironic thing I see is that there is still a lot of love for the M1 carbine, while the Mini 14, which currently generally meets or exceeds that gun's performance in every way except weight, gathers mostly hate on internet forums - usually for no reason that wouldn't also apply to the M1 carbine.

The Mini is acceptable to a lot of shooters, because of its handling characteristics, familiarity with the controls and/or operating system, simple maintenance, and its reliability. Until recently, the availability of all-stainless construction has also been a somewhat exclusive attraction. The price......yeah, that shouldn't be reasonable in the current market, IMO - unless you compare it to that of the M1 carbine. But apparently, there is enough demand to keep both high. If there were other producers of the same design, the price would likely go down - but who is going to take up that task, with all the smack against the Mini?

The five round flush fitting mag makes them worth the price of admission as far as I'm concerned.

In that regard, Ol' Bill was a genius.

Flawless?

The problem is not the mistake, or even the big mistake.

It's making the same stupid mistake. For 3 decades.

Hell, over that period, it probably wasn't even the same people running the show.
In 30 or 40 years, the engineers and the quality had to have had substantial personally changes.
And yet, they still couldnt grind the reamers to the right dimension. Make sure the ones in the tooling were
matched, and discard them when undersized.

This isn't hard stuff.
That's the bad part.
Getting this right is vo-tech grade.

That's a good point. With the 5-round mag, it slips into places - loaded and ready to fire - where other MSRs would never fit. And carries nicely; 20-rounders, at the ready if needed/wanted. That is turning out to be a big deal for me.

Pass me the 90 round magazine please! Get some yeah get some

I think the biggest issue is that people expect more out of a rifle cartridge than they do out of a glorified handgun round.

Expectations are important. It's always better to under promise and over deliver. There is a lot of promise in the 5.56x45!

Laughing.
I didn't realize the Mini-14 lived rent free in so many heads.
Why always the Mini vs. the AR?
Why not the Mini vs. the AK? Notice how none of the AK guys participate in these threads or post up targets to compare? Now there is a POS weapon with a following.
At least the Mini is 'merican.

Absolutely. Expectations are important. And If you expect to shoot much under sub 2MOA groups, the current Mini will likely frustrate you, and the pencil-barrel will make you tear your hair out. It can be made to do it, for a price, and some just get lucky - but if that's the main goal, there are many better options.

For anyone who has one and would like it to shoot better - I would start with bedding the receiver and reducing the gas bushing diameter. Both cheap and easy improvements.

To be fair - the AK can be had for a bit less. But yeah. OTOH - I haven't tried one, but the Mini 30 does have a reputation of better accuracy than the 14, so there is that also.

You forgot white.

Oh wtf a 50yd 3 shot group... ph uck you better pack your gear and head to camp Perry with that setup then.. I see President 100 in your future!

Rent free.

Yeah. This one isn't going anywhere.

Hey - hold your tongue! I'm 0.064% Native American!