|
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,847
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,847 |
I use to leave it on the 2 power, and I was never handicapped with lack of Field of View and those heavy shot gun cross hairs sure never handicapped you at all either....
Took several deer shooting across a swamp, at 250 yd range with the scope on 2x, and was not handicapped on those shots either with that low of a power... I agree with that. I have two of Leupold's 1.75-6x VX3i. I had a heavy duplex put in one and left the other with the standard duplex. I used the HD on my MRC for a while, then switched it for the other one. Even in low light I don't lose the standard reticle. But outside of testing several different loads, neither of them were often off the 1.75x setting. Granted, most of my hunting is done at ranges less than 100 yards, and I find that 1.75x is plenty of magnification. As always YMMV, but the lower power scopes work for me.
"An archer sees how far he can be from a target and still hit it, a bowhunter sees how close he can get before he shoots." It is certainly easy to use that same line of thinking with firearms. -- Unknown
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772 |
I'm not a fan of the 2.5-8 Leupold. The weight and mag range are good but the rest leaves me unimpressed. I know they are the best set and forget hunting scope in existence to many here but that hasn't been my experience. I haven't tried the SWFA UL yet but the eye relief concerns me. For a light scope, I'd be looking at a Z3 3-9. For light-ish scope at a lower cost, I've been very impressed with the Razor LH 1.5-8. They can be had for just a hair over $400. For me there is no comparison between it and the Leupold 2.5-8. The image, eye relief, eye box, reticle, and adjustments are all better in the Vortex.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,910
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,910 |
I was looking at Vortex but they seem to be getting a lot of bad reviews on the Campfire lately. Vortex quality in the scopes starts at the Razor line. I won't own one lesser, but the Razors are G2G.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2 |
Thanks everyone. I,m still weighing my options but leaning toward the Leupy. I just wish it had a little more FOV on the bottom end for the thick northern woods where I live. No problems here, though when I do use my .45-70 here, it has a 1.5-5 VX-3i on it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,174
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 17,174 |
Looks a-bit wet.
Having some fun in a tree.
Randy NRA Patriot Life Benefactor
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2 |
That's how much rain we got this year. That area is normally dry, and it obviously doesn't drain well, but I kill a deer or two there every year. It's a natural funnel
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 38
Campfire Greenhorn
|
Campfire Greenhorn
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 38 |
Thanks everyone. I,m still weighing my options but leaning toward the Leupy. I just wish it had a little more FOV on the bottom end for the thick northern woods where I live.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,748
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 8,748 |
I would not use the SWFA on a 30-06. I have one, and like it for what it is. It is not for rifles with recoil. 223, 243, etc., it’s a neat scope.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 38
Campfire Greenhorn
|
Campfire Greenhorn
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 38 |
The field of view in a 2 1/2 X 8 Leupold VX-3i is about 37.5' @ 100 yds at the bottom magnification. How much field of view do you think you require?
IMHO field of view is way down on the list of priorities in selecting a scope. I've done a lot of hunting in the thick stuff & w/ various scopes that have a max FOV of around 30' to 40' @100 yds & lack of FOV has never been an issue on shots either standing or running no matter how close.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2 |
Having more FOV just makes the job easier for me.
I have rifles with 3 to 3.5 on the bottom, it's never cost me a deer, I just like more FOV.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772 |
If you like lots of fov, the 1.5-8 Razor has 72 ft of it at 100 yds.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2 |
Leupold 1-4X20 has about that amount, too. I've used it on several woods rifles. You can pick up a moving deer, look ahead for a hole, then pop him when he get there. . I bet the Razor has some nice glass. How is it at 6 to 8 power?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772 |
It's very good glass. The view is nice across the mag range. I'm able to use 3" dots as targets at 500 yds, which isn't bad for an 8x scope.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2 |
Hmmm. I'm assuming 30mm tube, I'll check it out, and it sounds useful and interesting.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772 |
The LH's are 1" tubes. Amazon has them for around $405 right now.
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 9,532 Likes: 2 |
You're making this hard.....must resist......
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,809 Likes: 3
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 28,809 Likes: 3 |
Ditto on the Leupold 2-7 Shotgun/ML Scope. I've had a few and they're great hunting scopes. Sometimes we let what works best for long range or bench shooting influence us too much when we choose scopes (and guns) for hunting. Hunting comes down to being able to see and hit a pretty large target, often pretty close-up if we're whitetail hunters, and quickly, because the deer are often in spots like the one in Vic's picture, and moving.
Another good one I've actually used is the 3-series 1.5-5. Mine was an old one circa 1980, but it was nearly an ideal scope for the woods, with enough Xs for open fields too. I keep my scopes set on Low, but like having some power on tap for when it's an advantage. Now, I might spring for the VX-5 HD version, based on positive results with a 2-10.
What fresh Hell is this?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,531
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,531 |
Well I found out what SWFA means but do they actually make their own scopes or does some famous scope maker do it for them and put their name on 'em?
What goes up must come down, what goes around comes around, there's no free lunch. Trump's comin' back, get over it!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 772 |
I believe you'll find that a large optical contractor builds them to spec... just like most scope "manufacturers".
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 688
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 688 |
Well, I found a new Vortex Razor HD LH 1.5-8x32 for $367.00 and took a chance and ordered it. Once I have it I will post my thoughts. I have 30 days to return it if I don't like it.
Lee F.
"Life's tough......It's even tougher if you're stupid"
-John Wayne
Calling an illegal alien an 'undocumented immigrant' is like calling a drug dealer an 'unlicensed pharmacist'
|
|
|
|
626 members (007FJ, 160user, 10ring1, 10gaugeman, 10Glocks, 12344mag, 66 invisible),
2,620
guests, and
1,375
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,192,213
Posts18,485,446
Members73,966
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|