Here is an excellent video regarding how NZ (and some other countries) refuse to issue licenses to people to own a firearm if they say they would use it for "self defense."
I know the liberals/progressives here in the U.S. would love to have these anti-self defense laws passed here.
L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
Here is an excellent video regarding how NZ (and some other countries) refuse to issue licenses to people to own a firearm if they say they would use it for "self defense."
"Self-defense" is not a valid purpose to own one. It doesn't mean you're banned from using it in self-defense if a situation required it.
I would bet that in New Zealand you're not allowed to carry around any type of item whatsoever if you are carrying it specifically for the purpose of self-defense. But you would be allowed to use an item you are carrying for another legitimate purpose, in self-defense, if need be.
Laws like this are pretty common across the world.
In 2006, my wife and I went to New Zealand, to hunt for Chamois, Tahr, and Red Stag. Our flight to Queenstown was diverted due to weather to Invercargill, at the south end of the South Island. We had to take a bus to Queenstown. Upon arriving, we walked the several blocks to our hotel, with luggage and rifle case in tow, down the main street. There was not so much as a sidelong glance toward us and the rifle case!
How times have changed.
I'd rather be a free man in my grave, than living as a puppet or a slave....
Here is an excellent video regarding how NZ (and some other countries) refuse to issue licenses to people to own a firearm if they say they would use it for "self defense."
"Self-defense" is not a valid purpose to own one. It doesn't mean you're banned from using it in self-defense if a situation required it.
I would bet that in New Zealand you're not allowed to carry around any type of item whatsoever if you are carrying it specifically for the purpose of self-defense. But you would be allowed to use an item you are carrying for another legitimate purpose, in self-defense, if need be.
Laws like this are pretty common across the world.
self defense IS the reason to own firearms...…..bob
self defense IS the reason to own firearms...…..bob
Nonsense, there's also the reasons of fun, collecting, hunting, sport, and offense. Some people also buy them ostensibly for one of the former reasons, but really more as a symbol of liberty and power.
In any case I'm pretty sure no one ever bought a .257 Roberts for "self-defence".
Of course, look at all of the far-left socialists/marxists who have plowed money into 'Alpine redoubts' over there. You think they didn't purchase a government to reflect their personal politics, too??
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical."-- Thomas Jefferson
Here is an excellent video regarding how NZ (and some other countries) refuse to issue licenses to people to own a firearm if they say they would use it for "self defense."
"Self-defense" is not a valid purpose to own one. It doesn't mean you're banned from using it in self-defense if a situation required it.
I would bet that in New Zealand you're not allowed to carry around any type of item whatsoever if you are carrying it specifically for the purpose of self-defense. But you would be allowed to use an item you are carrying for another legitimate purpose, in self-defense, if need be.
Laws like this are pretty common across the world.
Exactly right. You can in a life or death situation use a firearm to protect yourself or one of your loved ones from death or grievous bodily harm. Self defence is a basic human right. The gun laws are designed to stop those with criminal records and crazies such as the mentally sick from getting access to firearms. Works well and NZ has a very low level of gun related crime from legal gun owners considering the huge amount of firearm ownership here.
"The 257 Roberts, some people like to call it the “.257 Bob.” I think these people should be hung in trees where crows can peck at them." - David Petzal
"Works well and NZ has a very low level of gun related crime from legal gun owners considering the huge amount of firearm ownership here."
Exactly - "legal gun owners" .
You don't seem to get the correlation between LEGAL and not committing gun related crimes. According to the video above far more gun related crimes are committed in NZ by those whe ILLEGALLY posses firearms. Criminals, crazies, etc. by very definition are not going do the law bit.
So keeping upright people from legally owning a firearm for possible self defense is going to help this how? Your onerous "screening" prevents rightous people from having an effective tool for an undeniable right, but sure doesn't seem to prevent illegal possession. There, as here, it is a burden on sane, honest people, and no prevention to speak of for those who are not. They will find a way.
NJ basically negates a persons right to self defense using a firearm. No castle law, no CCW, no stand your ground...
Gun =yo uare wrong. Sucks. This place sucks.
Ya know what, I am so freaking done with NJ.
Originally Posted by Archerhunter
Quit giving in inch by inch then looking back to lament the mile behind ya and wonder how to preserve those few feet left in front of ya. They'll never stop until they're stopped. That's a fact.
[quote=Crockettnj]NJ basically negates a persons right to self defense using a firearm. No castle law, no CCW, no stand your ground...
Gun =yo uare wrong. Sucks. This place sucks.
Ya know what, I am so freaking done with NJ.
Hey, Crockett, Whereabouts in New Jersey are you? I’m up near Frenchtown, cross the river in PA. I have family and friends that live in Jersey, the gun laws do suck but you can still have a 50 BMG :-)
Here is an excellent video regarding how NZ (and some other countries) refuse to issue licenses to people to own a firearm if they say they would use it for "self defense."
"Self-defense" is not a valid purpose to own one. It doesn't mean you're banned from using it in self-defense if a situation required it. ..."
I would submit that preventing people from owning firearms for "self defense" would throw up a very thick psychological barrier for MOST of the NZ citizens to actualy use a gun for self defense, even if under a dire threat. I believe the possibility of going to prison for using one's firearm for self defense, would cause a person to hesitate long enough for the "bad guy(s)" to harm or kill him or her. "Lag time" in a rapidly deteriorating deadly situation can prevent the person from making that decision to aim and pull the trigger.
My opinion.
L.W.
"Always go straight forward, and if you meet the devil, cut him in two and go between the pieces." (William Sturgis, clipper ship captain, 1830s.)
Well, all I can say is that I have a gut feeling many here do have a firearm for self defence but won't admit to it on any legal document. I may be wrong about that because we don't have the problem you guys have with criminals being armed. Some are obviously, but they tend to be gang members and drug dealers who deal with their own kind.
"The 257 Roberts, some people like to call it the “.257 Bob.” I think these people should be hung in trees where crows can peck at them." - David Petzal
Well, all I can say is that I have a gut feeling many here do have a firearm for self defence but won't admit to it on any legal document. I may be wrong about that because we don't have the problem you guys have with criminals being armed. Some are obviously, but they tend to be gang members and drug dealers who deal with their own kind.
So you have to lie to your Government to have a fire arm for self preservation............Freedom at it highest level!!
Still no answer on that gun control question?
Paul
"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.
Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.
The simple fact is that we don't need to have firearms for self defence because no one threatens us. The last home invasion where someone was killed happened over 20 years ago. That's the point that some of you guys don't seem to understand.
"The 257 Roberts, some people like to call it the “.257 Bob.” I think these people should be hung in trees where crows can peck at them." - David Petzal
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