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So sad and so true. That alone is the very reason many say they need the NRA.
It could be considered paid welfare.

I can't believe that a lot of gun owners are attacking the NRA when our gun rights are being attacked. Go figure. How many of you non NRA members , are members of other Pro 2nd amendment organizations ?

Every Democrat pissing and moaning how the terrible NRA keeps them from getting the gun laws they want and some of you guys say they do nothing. Must have some power if the dems don’t like em. I will stay a member. You do what you want. Ed k

What is this......you must belong to some organizations or you're a "dimbulb"!!
I am an entity unto myself.
Whatever happened to the thought of a "Freeman"?
The question should be how many are willing to stand up to any Gov. that attempts to take ones rights. That is the real question instead of this
machiavellian concept.

In case you haven't noticed; your rights have been under attack for quite some time. Why haven't you attacked?

Are you asking for help attacking, when you claim to be an entity unto yourself?

Anyone on here who isn't a member of a gun rights group, AND a fiscal supporter otherwise, is a clueless freeloading moron who doesn't understand what is at stake. The Second is the only thing keeping the rest of the civil liberties anywhere near intact, and that, kids, is the legacy that is our duty to pass on to future generations.
Kind of hard to withhold consent of the governered when the governors have all the guns, silly. Get after it, join GOA, SAF, NRA. I don't care which, but pull the effing wagon please.

Oh, and speaking of a march, there should be one. The first one, everyone brings a plywood silhouette of their fave. Not that hard to jigsaw something nice. Peaceably protest now. Not so peaceable later.

I would like to see my NRA putting its effort and money in lawsuits enforcing the 2nd amendment and saying we don't need any gun owner protection laws, because firearms ownership is a civil right. We need court cases like Heller and McDonald that affirm that right, and the money spent on the ILA could be used for that purpose. If anyone thinks we can beat back legislation in the thousands of cities, counties, states, or U.S. congress, think again. Public opinion is either apathetic or against us. When our rights are as enshrined in court decisions and precedent as other civil rights then whatever the lesser jurisdictions try to pass to the contrary would be as stillborn as would be a racially discriminatory law . Over 50% of the country is against us, we can't win any other way. That said, we do need to support presidents that appoint constitution friendly judges, but all this ILA seems a waste compared to the courts.

The NRA COULD be the spearhead of taking back the infringements that already exist. I and others on here have said for years that we should be in an all-out war in the courts and state, federal and local governments against current infringements. Instead we are constantly on the defensive. Going on the offensive, especially as far as information is concerned, really only takes a change in mindset, yet even here, where the most hardcore gun owners should hang out, we are not of one mind and thus, easily defeated. You have people who are so stupid, propagandized, brainwashed, or even are paid opposition, that they actually advocate for "sensible", "common sense" gun laws, Red Flag laws, "having the conversation", etc. They've been exposed to the truth for far too long for something not to be up.

I have noticed and have spent much of my life attacking in many forms, many forms mentioned and some that have not been.
So, if anyone wants to join with me that would be great, otherwise, I good with just me.

Your "I am an entity unto myself" attitude is why you spend your life feeling totally disenfranchised. The power of one is zilch, and you know that fact if there is more than just an air space between your ears........ Maybe Q will come to your rescue.

K22 y . At this time, I will use the NRA to help fight against the anti gun club. You are part of the problem, not the solution. Let me know how your fight goes by yourself.

So standing my ground without others is zilch? So it is group think that you prefer.

Even with all of your bashing, Q will come to yours also.

You truly don't have a clue about many things involving reality. But I guess the world needs martyrs.

Even I will be saved by Q? Should I feel......uh......special?

Sonny, the whole idea of the USA is protecting the rights of the individual against mob rule. That's why we have a representative republic and not a straight democracy. Standing alone against the tyranny of the majority is not just a time-honored tradition in the US, it's even a heroic archetype, or it used to be. If the individual believed in what was right and stood up for it, win or lose, he was considered a hero.

I'm neither a Q acolyte nor a martyr type, just explaining that which is evidently no longer taught or has not been understood by...the individual in question.

Self explanatory

Sonny, the whole idea of the USA is protecting the rights of the individual against mob rule. That's why we have a representative republic and not a straight democracy. Standing alone against the tyranny of the majority is not just a time-honored tradition in the US, it's even a heroic archetype, or it used to be. If the individual believed in what was right and stood up for it, win or lose, he was considered a hero.

I'm neither a Q acolyte nor a martyr type, just explaining that which is evidently no longer taught or has not been understood by...the individual in question.
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So sayeth you:

Indeed unity is very important but we have to face hard facts;

1. All gun owners are not conservatives (or constitutionally minded)
I won't pretend to know how many are conservatively minded but it's a safe bet that maybe half are. Out of that number only 5 or so million are willing to devote time and money to the most powerful lobbying interest . I do believe there are quite a few socially minded people that are armed.

2. The NRA does not always get it right.
This has led to other organizations to crop up and people have joined and supported those entities. Does this make those people wrong? No it does not. The key is to unify all these folks under one flag, literally....Fixing the holes in the roof would be a big step towards this

I am a member. I occasionally send them a little extra. I don't like that they use my whole membership dues raising more money from me. But they do have political clout. They are the only one of the groups that do.

I don’t remember our forefathers being an entity onto themselves. Seems to me they got together and even got another foreign gov to help kick ass. Seems to me that one single bullet will get rid of someone by themselves. Opinions vary. Ed k
Also I’m not here enough of a badass to go it alone.